[Neil Jones]

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[tony harrison]

As a member of the " older generation " and having owned one of these for a very long time i can say they are great piece of kit.

Tony.

[robert meldrum]

I have one of these........with a soft and a hard brush. It's actually aHolloway machine and built to last.

I linked to a small hew machine to supply the chemical which in my case was a dry foam .

Handy for bench seating or similar.

I'd be happy to swap mine for a carpet wand in reasonable order.

[peter maybury]

These are and always have been antiquated badly designed machines. I started with the von schrader upholstery machines in 1989. The holloway and this machine do not even come close. the von schrader is one handed operation, I used to clean 3 suites a day with it quite reguarly. I could not imagine doing that quantity of fabric with these things.
The von scrader has several patented parts that make it unique although it is a lot more expensive it is just so much easier and efficiant to use. Advance also made a single brush machine that pre-generates foam but that too is two handed operation and very clumsy. The von schrader is also the only machine to use the same motor to vac off.
If anybody knows of any cheaper alternative then I would like to know as I lost 2 von schraders in a van fire at the end of last year and would like to replace. After using the von schraders could not consider these other things.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I had 3 of those at one time bloody cumbersome things but cleaned better than the von Schrader I replaced them with and cheaper.

Shaun

[robert meldrum]

I also owned a Von Schrader and found it to pretty useless .............Yes the Holloway is pretty heavy but I found it useful on seating on several occasions when aggitating dry foam.

The brushes got a far better result than the V S machine.

It's old and heavy but still has two brushes in good condition and it's little wooden case.

[peter maybury]

Shaun
Cannot see how that is possible. The contra rotating brushes on a von schrader were far more effective than a single rotating brush. Tried the advance foam through von schrader and tried von schrader foam through advance machine. The single handed operation of the von schrader allows you to apply spotters with the other hand without stopping work.
There is no logic in your statement.
Dry foam being neutral ph often needs other boosters and aditives which can be done with any of the machines. Comparing a single brush machine to a contra-rotating brush is the same as comparing a crb to a rotary brush for aggitating or a rotary to a cimex. A suite with the advance machine would take a lot longer and be far harder work than with the v.s. In addition to this you would need another machine in the room if you wanted to extract. The advance machine was streets ahead of the holloway or the bane but nowhere near the von schrader.
These days I only use the von scraders to clean leather, I can put the leather cleaner through the machine, have a spray bottle of concentrate in the other hand or apply other spotters. These can be applied without any interuption of work. The dirty muck can be vacced off which save a lot of the rinsing that is required.
I could not imagine doing that with a brush that requires two hands on it and no extraction.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

[Mark_Jubb]

We had several of these (Holloway Swift, versions) at a company I used to work at. We used them for dry foaming large quantities of Restaurant/Canteen Type chairs, and for doing seats and benchseating in pubs.
A bit of faffing about getting them set up and they wre quite heavy to work with for long periods, but very solidly built and reliable.

[robert meldrum]

I gave up in the Von Schrader when finding I got a far better result from a bonnet mitt and on leather it's quicker and more effective when using abrasive sponges, microfiber and /or towelling.

You do have to know what you're doing with this method as in the wrong hands the protective coating could be removed.

[Jamie Pearson]

A customer gave me a Holloway Swift for my birthday a couple of years back after reading in here how it was the first machine I ever used at the tender age of 9.

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Shaun
Cannot see how that is possible. The contra rotating brushes on a von schrader were far more effective than a single rotating brush. Tried the advance foam through von schrader and tried von schrader foam through advance machine. The single handed operation of the von schrader allows you to apply spotters with the other hand without stopping work.
There is no logic in your statement.
Dry foam being neutral ph often needs other boosters and aditives which can be done with any of the machines. Comparing a single brush machine to a contra-rotating brush is the same as comparing a crb to a rotary brush for aggitating or a rotary to a cimex. A suite with the advance machine would take a lot longer and be far harder work than with the v.s. In addition to this you would need another machine in the room if you wanted to extract. The advance machine was streets ahead of the holloway or the bane but nowhere near the von schrader.
These days I only use the von scraders to clean leather, I can put the leather cleaner through the machine, have a spray bottle of concentrate in the other hand or apply other spotters. These can be applied without any interuption of work. The dirty muck can be vacced off which save a lot of the rinsing that is required.
I could not imagine doing that with a brush that requires two hands on it and no extraction.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

So what you saying Peter a rotary won't agitate as good as a CRB I think it would.

[Kevin OBrien]

I did a Bently leather yesterday my method was A DA polisher with a cyclone head soft, LTT Leather cleaner and a micro cloth the results outstanding I was looking at the  Von Schrader, alot of Cash.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Pete 1. agitation was better with the thicker bristles 2. it let more solution through.

Shaun

[peter maybury]

Phill if you put a crb alongside a rotary you will see the differemce, A single brush rotating in one direcention is flattening the pile, Crb s lift and open the pile. You only need to see the crud and the sand that is brought up with a crb to realise the effectiveness. The single direction on a rotary will flatten the pile a lot more.
The black brushes for the von schader are as stiff as the holloway, the white brushes are very gentle. Again the cotra rotating brush head is getting to different sides of the fibres and does not leave swirls that you will get with a single brushas.
Foam as a media has the greatest penetration the thicker bristles will not determine the amount of foam produced. As said before foam with it neutral ph has it limitations but this can be altered by using additives. Oxidisers are enhanced with the penetrating abilities of the foam.
I think it takes along time mastering foam cleaning because of it limitations and it is just a lot quisker and easier to fire up the truckmount, but for quite some time my marketing was based around the low moisture advantages of upholstery cleaning with dry foam.
Every system has its uses but some of these systems take time to perfect.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Good answer thanks. I use my dry fusion with brush for agitation but am just about to get a crb so will reach for that instead thanks.

[*Hector*]

Phil I know you use Mpower as your main prespray...

When you agitate with your rotary it comes up good before the extraction.

When you use a crb it will have the wow factor, before extraction (if you are using Mpower correctly that is) 

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Not had a bad result with mpower yet mate