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Steven Butler

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Good/bad move??
« on: May 03, 2013, 07:16:22 pm »
Would appreciate your opinions on a move I have just made, firstly though,  I do this part time, am new, work in employment aswell whilst I build it up and am only averaging 1 or 2 jobs a week so it's very much part time.
Anyway ....
I have sold my twin vac machine and with the money bought...
A sabrina maxi (10 months old)
A victor wolf rotary (with shampoo brush, hard brush and bonnet pads, all pretty much new)
And a Sahara drieaz in excellent condition.

I know I've dropped to single vac but I think I've bought some excellent equipment???
Opinions appreciated

Paul Moss

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 07:30:45 pm »
No opinion as there is too much off this going on now, and the pro guys are having a hard time because of it.

creighton foyle

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 07:31:30 pm »
i agree you have had a good deal 8)

Steven Butler

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 07:59:02 pm »
Creighton thanks.
Paul, how do you mean the pro guys are suffering? When you first started did you not ask advise and try to learn???

Paul Moss

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 08:19:02 pm »
Yep, but i had commited to it full time andb12 years ago things where different. I learnt by trial and error at my own  expence and not by getting free info off every body else. Its ok when theres loads of work, but when work is thin on the ground and part timers just come into it for extra money for hols etc then im all out of giving valuable info out to all on sundry. :-X

Deep Cleaning Solutions

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 08:24:07 pm »
Steven, i have one lad who uses the exact same machine who works for me and he works far faster and completes more jobs a day than another part time lad who has an all singing all dancing twin vac machine and other gear. He gets better results too and i call every customer and they are always over the moon. You will struggle on some really deep set dirty wool carpets though that may result in the dredded black death, but at least you have a rotary to finnish off if needed.
David.
Owner of Deep Cleaning Solutions.
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Steven Butler

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 08:25:56 pm »
Paul to be fair I can fully understand what your saying, and to be fair agree. However I'm not doing it part time for holiday money, or beer money or whatever. I'm trying to support my family and give them a better life. I'm not working and looking for additional income....I'm working just to pay the bills whilst trying to build a business to eventually do full time.
As for getting advise that's the point of forums isn't it?
I'm not looking to argue mate if u don't want to offer advise then don't.

Steven Butler

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2013, 08:29:22 pm »
Deep Cleaning Solutions (sorry dont know your name)
Thanks for that, good to know. I do have doubts but hopefully the air mover will help compensate for the single vac, also as u say the rotary will play its part.
Cheers mate

Paul Moss

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2013, 08:40:09 pm »
Steve no probs this end mate.
Im helping a couple of full timers out at the mo that are struggling and its because of the new boys and part timers that are coming in charging stupid prices etc.

One guy though is listening well and has just got a job that he thought should be £300 and now is getting over £900, he has tried hard over the past couple of years and now things are starting to work for him.

Steven Butler

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 09:37:57 pm »
Paul, one thing I have done out of respect to you pros/experienced/full timers is try to charge high ish....and that's out of respect.
Maybe costing me work at present but...

Paul Moss

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2013, 09:58:55 pm »
Steve, good luck.

peter maybury

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2013, 12:29:09 pm »
To be honest with you Steve TACCA has a minimum equipment level for membership and a single vac machine would not permit entry. It is a low performance basic machine. You will find it fine until you have some thing better to compare it with. If you want some proffesssional advice, do a course and get some training on what is available.
There are lot of carpet cleaners using substandard equipment and doing a bad job, and plenty on here that will say that it is fine. I started with crap equipment years ago and not having any training was totally ignorant of the fact. You need heat, power, aggitation, decent chems and training .
Peter
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Steven Butler

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 05:55:10 pm »
Thanks for the replies.
Do you really need heat though?

Paul Heath

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2013, 06:57:48 pm »
do you wash your clothes in cold water..?? or do you get better results when you wash them in a 40 or 60 wash ?

*Hector*

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2013, 07:00:39 pm »
They are rinsed in cold  :P :P

 ;D
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

peter maybury

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2013, 08:21:17 pm »
cold wash dish washing machines are all the rage too!
Honestly if anybody thinks they are getting the best results from cold water cleaning come down and spend a day with me so we can compare results.
Peter

Steven Butler

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2013, 08:28:49 pm »
I'm not saying warm water is good enoug....BUT people have told me it is. Confusing

Paul Moss

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 08:46:07 pm »
Steve, tomorrow go and do a bit of gardening in the soil with your bare hands and then go and have a play in your car engine.
Then go and wash your hands in cold water.

Do the same all over again and this time wash them in hot water.

                  And the answer to your question you will find out  ;D

Kevin OBrien

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2013, 08:55:58 pm »
It is very confusing I have spoken to CC who have been in the game 30 years + and never used hot water, then chemical companys spend thousands upon thousands  on developing a chem so it can be used cold ???Vey confusing

john martin

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Re: Good/bad move??
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2013, 08:57:30 pm »
I'm not saying warm water is good enoug....BUT people have told me it is. Confusing

People recommend heat because it will usually enable you to get the result you want quicker and with less effort .. but u can do without it .

With the gear you have  ...  vacuum the carpet or if the customer has done it don't bother
Prespray the carpet , us your rotary and brush to scrub it in  ,  put the warmest water available on the premises into your machine , add a little carpet powder or rinse to the tank if you like , extract  and do a couple of dry passes after each stroke ,  put on your airmover in a corner ,  go over the carpet with your rotary and bonnet pads .   Groom the carpet .
You could get an excellent result and have the carpet near dry if your in no rush .