[Steve Chapman]

I know this is isnt carpet cleaning but some of you deal in hard floors.

A friend of mine has moved into a flat with good quality karndean flooring and it has been scratched badly with the furniture when moving in.
Is there any product that can be used to repair it / cosmetically make it look better ?

Regards
Steve

[John Kelly]

Give it a clean with Chemspec Neutral floor cleaner, mop or vac off then 2 coats of Tightshine.

[Jamie Pearson]

As John suggests.

If they are deep scratches that you can feel with your finger nail then it may be possible to abrade the factory finish slightly with honing powder then over coat.

It may be better to use a satin or matt finish if they are really bad as the gloss can highlight them.

If you can get away with a glossier finish then great as Tight Shine is one of the fastest drying
(Unless its during training at Restormate with 12 people watching)

[Steve Chapman]

ok thanks both, they are actually quite deep gouges so was wondering if there is something I can fill them with first before coating ?

Regards
Steve

[Steve Gunn]

http://www.furnitureclinic.co.uk/Wood_Repair.php

Never used them but may work

[Steve Chapman]

ok cheers will give it a look

Steve

[Neil Jones]

Aren't they for wood though?

[jim mca]

Steve

Stukko with a colouring or a hard wax melted in might fill the scratches

[Jamie Pearson]

None of the above. They will either be too soft or too hard.

You need a clear PU coating that can fill anything that doesn't come out with honing powder.

Its prices stuff at almost £5m2 for the material. Comes in either 1 litre or 5 litre containers at 10m2/litre coverage.

It may be worth sub contracting it to an approved applicator of the product as it can be expensive if you get it wrong.

[Steve Chapman]

ok thanks

Where would one puchase such a thing 

Steve

[Jamie Pearson]

I would try the honing powder first off as its the lowest cost option.

It is available in 60 : 100 : 220 : 320 : 400 : 800

Some 220 to 400 for scratches. Lower grits to boost the stripping of heavy built up polish.

[peter maybury]

When we fit vinyl floors be it safety flooring or pure vinyl any scratches that the material gets from transport installation etc,  we remove by heating with our vinyl welders. A similar process, we used to use in sign making by flame polishing acrylic panels with blowlamps.
Obviously vinyl welders and blowlamps get very hot and will burn the products in a very short space of time. It is a process that requires some practice but it is very effective indeed. Honing powders are effective to a point but brasso or t cut will also do a similar job.
It is surprising the depth of sctratch that will just disappear in front of your eyes with a welder. Cannot stress enough the care needed to be taken as you do need to know at what point to stop or you have a damaged floor. With an expensive floor like kardean it could be wise to get somebody with some experience in this type of work.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

[Steve Chapman]

ok thanks for the input everyone, has given me something to think about, maybe I'll try some brasso or t cut first and see if it improves it.

Think it will probably need a bit more than that as the scratches are quite deep and noticeable.,



Cheers
Steve

[peter maybury]

It scratches are deep then you will need to heat out as said it is impressive how the material just rebonds.
You do need to be able to identify the products properly, use on anything with a foam back cushion or sandwich and you are in big trouble.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

[Jamie Pearson]

It scratches are deep then you will need to heat out as said it is impressive how the material just rebonds.

Never heard or thought of this before. I will need to give it a try.
Have you tried it on older floors when scratches are filled with dirt or coating?
If it works on them too this really is a helpful hint.
I am assuming it only works for vinyls due to the plasticisers "memory" and wont work for rubber or marmoleum?

[peter maybury]

we also use the same process for linoleum and marmoleum floors. These two products seem to show marks more that vinyls, but their recovery with heat is just as impressive. Do you know any vinyl fitters Jamie that could show you, if you have never seen floors welded it is worth seeing.
It can even be used on things like car bumpers and things. The difficulty with products that you are unfamiliar with is finding the right exposure time, the time between being enough and too much are very close together.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://

[Jamie Pearson]

Yes I have seen it Peter. I did a w few days training at the laying school at Forbo when I helped write their care guidlines back in the 90s. They hadnt long launched marmoweld at that time.

[peter maybury]

marmoleum and linoleum are welded in the same way that vinyl and safety floors are welded. Basically the weld rod is fused to the material. The same happens with scratches the surface heats, expands and the surfaces fuse together.
Have never tried with rubber as this is not a product that is welded with stud tile and the like it is stuck down with contact adhesive. No welding is necessary so have never had welding gun to hand and never given it a thought. Would think it too easy to brown.
If you do a lot of commercial vinyl and there are really bad areas these could be patched and welded in.
There is a lot of vinyl out there.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

[DB]

Worth a look..............

http://www.konig-uk.co.uk/

[Steve Chapman]

It will def need more than a clean, its got deep scratches.

Have cleaned them with brasso, which has done a good job of polishing out the sharp edges and blending them a bit, but still need something to fill in the deep lines.


Steve