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Cheers guys , off the top of my head i reckon i will go for the 85 , if thats what you both use then i reckon that it will be alright for me because i dont suppose it will get laboured half as much as yours, being as im a little bit of a lazy git !Yep I would recommend the 85 amp One thing though , how often do you charge the batteries ?This is directly linked to usage. We used 3 tanks full of water (1500L) and the battery was still strong. We do have a fully charged spare on standby ready to swap over though. And is it possible to wire the battery to the charging circuit of the van ?OR IS THIS A BIG NO NO ?You can buy split chargers from places like 'Maplins' for £7.99Click pic to go to Maplins Cheers Rich P @ F