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telboy

CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« on: July 29, 2005, 02:20:42 pm »


       " REACH AND WASH"

CAN ANY ONE USE THIS PHRASE OR IS IT OWNED BY SOMEBODY

I WAS THINKING AS REGARDING ADVERTISING??????


TELBOY ;)


ANGEL C/S
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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 02:51:08 pm »
HI Angel

to the best of my knowledge - Reach & Wash - is a trade mark for Ionics Systems. So you might be getting into some sticky ground there.

I would also be interested in everyones opinion on this and if Craig from Ionic would like to comment also

Andrew
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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 03:52:42 pm »
Quote from: telboy on July 29, 2005, 02:20:42 pm


       " REACH AND WASH"

CAN ANY ONE USE THIS PHRASE OR IS IT OWNED BY SOMEBODY

I WAS THINKING AS REGARDING ADVERTISING??????


TELBOY ;)


ANGEL C/S
what ever you do don't use it as you will get yourself in trouble with ionics as the Reach & Wash logo - is thier trade mark. unless ofcourse you are using one of thier systems then it's OK.

why not try "WATER FED POLE WINDOW CLEANING" that's OK
Jay
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windows_chepstow

Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2005, 06:28:12 pm »
So if I registered 'Water Fed Pole' as a trade mark, would that mean you lot couldn't use that either?

I've an extremely intelligent mate that works in the patent office (well actually he's Wor Lasses mate - running club buddies (so she tells me)).  I'm sure he knows stuff like this.

I'll ask him.
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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2005, 12:09:51 am »
Quote from: windows_chepstow on July 29, 2005, 06:28:12 pm
So if I registered 'Water Fed Pole' as a trade mark, would that mean you lot couldn't use that either?

I've an extremely intelligent mate that works in the patent office (well actually he's Wor Lasses mate - running club buddies (so she tells me)).  I'm sure he knows stuff like this.

I'll ask him.
i think you will be to late on this one as too many people are already using the term water fed pole
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JAY "GRAFTERS"
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thewindowcleaner1

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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2005, 05:42:11 am »
I don't have an Ionics system but I do use thier poles so does this mean that although I can't use thier logo (I've asked ) can I still use the term "reach and wash" because I am using thier poles to reach the windows and wash them?????

Alan
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telboy

Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2005, 03:29:40 pm »
HOW CAN YOU FIND OUT IF ITS COPYRIGHTED

TEL BOY ;)
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pjulk

Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2005, 05:32:33 pm »
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HOW CAN YOU FIND OUT IF ITS COPYRIGHTED

Ask Ionics.
You could always use Reach & Clean
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eddie d

Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2005, 05:42:48 pm »
 change it slightly reach and wash london ,reach and wash kent,
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pjulk

Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2005, 05:44:43 pm »
Or Reach N Wash
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Ian_Giles

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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2005, 05:55:30 pm »
On 'THE OTHER FORUM' this was discussed at length....I think!
Reach and wash belong to Ionics, and they protect this avidly.

Got their poles?

Want to use their logo?

Uh huh, no can do, you need their system, otherwise you could claim to use their logo if you only used one of their brushes!

I think that the term; Water Fed Pole is now to generic to be able to copywrite or patent.
I know nothing about the rules concerning patent or copywrite, but something tells me you couldn't claim this term as your own.

If Craig or Reuben read this thread I am sure they will reply!

Regards,

Ian
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Davindo Cleana

Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2005, 06:40:50 pm »
I was looking to copyright an idea for a slogan not w/c related and found that you cannot copyright a phrase
You can seek to register it as a trademark - if you do get that far and I don't know if 'reach and wash' has, then you can legally object to other people using your trademark -
it's called "passing off" where people are creating an impression taken from the originator of the trademark
even then there is no guarantee of successful prosecution :)
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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2005, 06:54:35 pm »
there's been some very good points put on this thresd about using the phase reach and wash,

is it possible to own  and copyrite a phase?

perhaps somebody who knows a bit more about such things should look into it?
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thewindowcleaner1

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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2005, 09:14:45 pm »
But can I use the term reach and wash pole as I use Ionics poles??????
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thewindowcleaner1

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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2005, 09:17:12 pm »

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Uh huh, no can do, you need their system, otherwise you could claim to use their logo if you only used one of their brushes

Just read this see you in a while just going to re word my web site......
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gaza

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Re: CAN ANY ONE USE IT
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2005, 01:06:35 am »
ive got one of those reach and wash thingys a customer once told me. me being preety astounded, I asked how much it cost them?They replyed [IF I REMEMBER RIGHT} 24/25 squid from betta were :o

 NOW ITS A GREAT NAME Graig and Rueben,BUT ITS BECAME LIKE HOOVER,every carpet cleaner is called a hoover,if you dont believe me wait till your mrs asks you to get the Hoover, not get the dyson etc etc.

Because its such a good name its lost its product id a little.

 gaza
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