[stracey]

Got a nice round of three storey houses on a newish estate and still building.
£10 per house, thought a little under-priced but very compact and pickup a new clean
every visit
Collecting yesterday and cust gone with a new quote of £6, they claim to do the majority
on the estate.
Hope they just disappear like the other under-cut nuisance we come across from time to time.

Will take the cust back on the new price of £12 this year me thinks

[dazmond]

if they got some very compact flats at £6 a pop u can still make a good hourly rate.some window cleaners are just greedy.dont be surprised if you lose a load  if their £10 a pop and only take 5 mins to clean.

i know of one guys who lost  the lot(whole apartment block)for a guy who was charging less yet he was still making £35+ an hour at the lower price!

business is business

regards

dazmond

[martinsadie]

if you are only doing a job here and there and charging for traveling,you are always going to get undercut by someone with compact work doing them all ,its not really undercutting hes charging the proper price

[formb]

Undercutting is very poor business practice.

If he has felt the need to resort to such a tactic he is probably struggling to get customers of his own.

If he uses 1 poor business practice he probably uses other too.

Every time we have been undercut in the past, the undercutter has gone sooner or later.

[daz1977]

do u know weather it is a newbie or someone established, just pinching work

[formb]

if you are only doing a job here and there and charging for traveling,you are always going to get undercut by someone with compact work doing them all ,its not really undercutting hes charging the proper price

If the customer was happy to pay £10 then he comes in and charges £6 its undercutting.

See:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/undercutting

[stracey]

We get four done an hour the two of us, these are quite large, think £40 hour right pricing.
£24 an hour not right price, not greedy but relistic not desperate

[formb]

We get four done an hour the two of us, these are quite large, think £40 hour right pricing.
£24 an hour not right price, not greedy but relistic not desperate

Sounds cheap to me mate.

[C.C.W.C]

We get four done an hour the two of us, these are quite large, think £40 hour right pricing.
£24 an hour not right price, not greedy but relistic not desperate

yeah i think thats spot on pricing for 2 of you. youll get them back come winter when its too cold for them

[The Jester of Wibbly]

name and shame the Bu**ers

[mlscontractcleaner]

Nobody likes being undercut but how do you know he undercut you; that may have been his price no matter how much you were charging ...... and your ex-customer went for it.

Let this be a lesson to you; you're in business and he's now got the work you used to have 'cause he offers better value for money, at least in his customer's eyes.

It's the same in any business :

[martinsadie]

Nobody likes being undercut but how do you know he undercut you; that may have been his price no matter how much you were charging ...... and your ex-customer went for it.

Let this be a lesson to you; you're in business and he's now got the work you used to have 'cause he offers better value for money, at least in his customer's eyes.

It's the same in any business :

spot on

[paul rulton]

Nobody likes being undercut but how do you know he undercut you; that may have been his price no matter how much you were charging ...... and your ex-customer went for it.

Let this be a lesson to you; you're in business and he's now got the work you used to have 'cause he offers better value for money, at least in his customer's eyes.

It's the same in any business :

that about wraps this thread up    well put   

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

  n that jus about sums it up fella jus hope
e dont get the rest ov ya custys at his price
or u cud be driving his van lol doing all yr old work lol

[Platinum]

Id be more worried that your losing customers rather than concentrating on the hourly rate.

Find ways of winning them back like offering more services or just simply being more competively priced. Dont forget we are in a recession and loads of window cleaners are around because there isnt any jobs about so you will get cheaper prices popping around.

Id just canvass your rounds again but at a better price and hold on to your work. When your profit margins are 80% plus there is always room to be flexable as long as you make a profit

[Platinum]

Think of it this way if i was trad and a guy on an estate charged £5 a house and i charged £5 we are offering the same service for the same price in the customers eyes. The only thing seperating our businesses is reliability, frequence of cleans, quality of work and whether or not we clean frames.

With WFP every system does the same things. You wash the windows and frames and thats the service. Depending on your frequency you dont have a unique selling point other than price if you are in competition with another window cleaner using a wfp system. This is when price wars will seperate you from competition.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

you always get what u pay for.

[formb]

Think of it this way if i was trad and a guy on an estate charged £5 a house and i charged £5 we are offering the same service for the same price in the customers eyes. The only thing seperating our businesses is reliability, frequence of cleans, quality of work and whether or not we clean frames.

With WFP every system does the same things. You wash the windows and frames and thats the service. Depending on your frequency you dont have a unique selling point other than price if you are in competition with another window cleaner using a wfp system. This is when price wars will seperate you from competition.

Price wars will only ever benefit the customer.

People who undercut are silly billys

[stracey]

We clean all the frames WFP, of course, + doors for this price.
I will up-date you on how this develops, from experience cust comes back when
the low priced only clean one or two on the estate disappears.

A few Custs have informed me they were approuched and gave me his flyer.
One cust said he was very insistant on the door the man saying very happy
with the service and said looking at him didnt have confidance that they could
deliver better.

I will let you all know good or bad

[stfc]

thing is though,if you come up against a big business who has blokes working for him,and he charged £6 a time and they did 3 an hour and gave his employee £7-8 an hour hes still making profit,so they might not go away as quickly thought,as some 1 says,business is business,look after number one