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Andrew46

On first cleans does anyone...
« on: March 15, 2010, 09:38:06 pm »
Use any cleaners or TFR??  or just elbow grease and pure water?


Thanks

paul rulton

Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 09:42:25 pm »
the latter 1 for me ;D plenty of scubbing & lots of rincing off  ;D

JSMC

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 09:47:01 pm »
go round and do all frames first and a quick onceover of the glass. Then back to the start and work on glass

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 09:59:21 pm »
Use a mono brush and rinse well, remember the dirt sits on the top of the frame. If there isnt a vent there, then flush that part out real well.
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evil genius

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 09:59:51 pm »
did a real nasty first clean today.
decided it would be better to get up on the ladder and sort everything.
took a while but will pay off by the next 2 cleans.

could have done it  water fed but it wouldn't have been a thorough and may have still marked glass after second clean.

ian
Stratford upon avon & Coventry pressure washing
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Smudger

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2010, 10:26:53 pm »
I tfr first cleans,

spray on top edges and bottoms of window + sills.

just watch the dirt fall off - sometimes the water is black! - it also gets all the cr@p out of the rubber seals so eliminates those black lines see you on the frame.

i have found i need also no scrubbing at all and the glass frames and sills really shine,   whats more when i return be it 4/8 weeks later they only need minimal water/time to clean.

YES - you need to rinse really well and at quite a high flow rate - but since changing to this method other than pure water i have had nothing but really pleased custsy's.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smudger

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2010, 10:41:45 pm »
here is a typical first clean....


took about 3 mins to clean then rinsed for a further 2 to 3 mins.

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Andrew46

Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 10:47:21 pm »
How did you apply TFR to top windows?

Do you use any UPVc cleaner on frmaes /cills?

ta

britishwill

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 11:02:47 pm »
On first cleans as standard I always use diluted ecover truck wash. I first spray a section of windows I can clean before it dries, clean them and then rinse (not that long just enough to get the suds off).  Then I do back and clean the glass slightly longer than usual. Making sure that I rinse just below the upper rubber frame not rinsing any longer than usual. This way I have found gets the results a lot faster than what I use to do with less effort but it costs a little more using a small amount of ecover.

Smudger

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 12:22:00 am »
i use a small plant sprayer - the pump up kind ( £3 to £5 quid )  these spay a good 15 ft when fully pressurised just aim at window - can be a bugger on a windy day  :P

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Window Washers

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 12:29:51 am »
i use a small plant sprayer - the pump up kind ( £3 to £5 quid )  these spay a good 15 ft when fully pressurised just aim at window - can be a bugger on a windy day  :P

Darran
convery a harris pole, get some more 5mm tube from b&q, get a hoselock pump sprayer, very easy to do, mine reaches all standard house in the wind or not and I can get the spray where needed without mess or waste.

Price about £40 all in all new or less
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jouk45

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 08:17:17 am »
smudger, i  dont use anything to clean window frames, just pure water, and scrubbing, comes of easily enough, are you not just giving yourself more work, and wasting money on cleaning solutions, for instance i use ecover, only if after scrubbing there is still dirt, then i would spray with ecover, but that is very rare i  even do that,

Smudger

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 08:25:00 am »
jouk -

not really,  many of the frames esp.  first cleans this winter are coated with a black residue - maybe soot ? as most houses around here are oil fired or coal for heating - this stuff does not come off unless scrubbed hard   but tfr it and a single pass removes the lot

Darran
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jouk45

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 08:34:08 am »
ah i see, i just wondered why, there are no coal fires round here, except in the countryside, only time i get the problem you described is in summer where folk put their bq next to their windows  :o now that is torture to clean,

Andrew46

Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 09:03:10 am »


Darran
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convert a harris pole, get some more 5mm tube from b&q, get a hoselock pump sprayer, very easy to do, mine reaches all standard house in the wind or not and I can get the spray where needed without mess or waste.

Price about £40 all in all new or less
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Darran

Have you any pics you could show??  Have you fitted a trigger to the hose at the ground level??

thanks

Smudger

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 05:43:35 pm »
Andrew,
sorry mate i think you need to speak to WW !! ;)


Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2010, 05:46:46 pm »
I'm assuming you just wfp on 2nd, 3rd, 4th floor windows, etc ;)
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

Smudger

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Re: On first cleans does anyone...
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 05:51:55 pm »
ohhhh   yess,     anything that high is too far away to see any dirt anyway  :P :o
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