[creighton foyle]

anyone use it ? is it as good as the website says it is ?, what are the pros and cons ?

[Ken Wainwright]

Hand on heart.

Superb on low profiles.

Great problem solver on domestics (typically access or shrinkage problems)

Too expensive in use on domestics (Can't usually have a clear >20 sqM to use one pads worth of chemical economically).

It's the most profitable system I have. Takings of £1000 per day for me and one assistant quite achievable on maintenance work, slightly more on occasional one-off cleans. A three man team can really achieve high earnings on large area office jobs.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken

[clinton]

Good post by ken..

I have got to agree and today i did a large office with other rooms off it and did it with my fusion clean and buffer and pads,got a good days wage from it today.

You can cover so much area with the l m systems and less tiring.

[derek west]

clinton
invite me along next time

see how the pro's do it.

[clinton]

Derek

[Dave_Lee]

Big problem is, if you don't have a license they wont supply you with Activator etc. Dry Fusion are based in the next town to me, and they wont issue any more local licenses.
Dave.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Get an activator style product from someone else who may have a solution

Shaun

[Joe H]

The solution is closer then you think.

[Robert Watson]

But is it as good as Activator, I know its a lot cheaper.
Rab

[colin thomas]

i'm not arguing the good or bad points of dry-fusion as i have never used one or even seen one in action but i run a tm and have an rx, as this is a rotary spinning machine but with constant rinse water instead of changing pads, what would be the benefit for someone like me? surely in essence they do the same job?

colin

[Mike Halliday]

yep ring Craftex they do a copy of DF called catalyst they certainly will have the solution or you could try a product called fusion clean from Solutions UK or perhaps Rotobrite2 from Chemspec

I personally think I could equal the results achieved with DF by using a number of other chemicals so why pay over the odds for the gimmick of a heated pad.

by the way anyone read Shaun Bradburys article in cleaning matters this month? I certainly agreed with his point of some companies over selling the abilities of their own chemicals, I wonder who he was referring too?

[colin thomas]

does nobody use both methods then? i would be interested in dry method if there is an advantage over wet with rx,

colin

[Joe H]

yep ring Craftex they do a copy of DF called catalyst they certainly will have the solution or you could try a product called fusion clean from Solutions UK or perhaps Rotobrite2 from Chemspec

I personally think I could equal the results achieved with DF by using a number of other chemicals so why pay over the odds for the gimmick of a heated pad.

by the way anyone read Shaun Bradburys article in cleaning matters this month? I certainly agreed with his point of some companies over selling the abilities of their own chemicals, I wonder who he was referring too?

Looking at your middle paragraph - perhaps himself ?

[derek west]

colin, alot of people don't agree with me here and thats fine but i often bonnet after cleaning with the truckmount when needed, and believe me or not but i do get improvements in certain circumstances, especially on traffic areas and near seats, settees etc...

[garyfindlay]

How would a cimex encap machine compare to dry fusion on low profile office carpets?

[colin thomas]

thanks derek,

colin

[gwrightson]

Gary.
Good question , earnings wise I would say better with up to 300 sq mtr per hour capability, not bad even at £1.00 per mtre.

Not having used d/f myself i cannot give an honest asessmet , how ever i do know that encap results are superb and instant with the added benifit of continual protection . and all of my commercial customers like the benifits.
Infact i,m just about to start a push for more commercial, had a load of brochure style leaflets printed aimed purly at commercial and encapsulation system, I will be visiting personaly premesis ,brochure in hand offering free demo if required .

geoff

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I had dry fusion about 7 or 8 years ago and it was over sold IMO it's fantastic for carpet tiles and low profiles but from a domestic carpet point of view you need to HWE as the kind of soiling is different.

Derek I still low moisture clean but don't use or need a dry fusion machine I didn't think the heat from the buffer made much difference although the heavy buffer was excellent at cleaning.

Shaun

[Joe H]

Just seen on US Encap forum a photo of a conversion.
Takes a standard rotary, add the conversion and makes it a 3 head like the Cimex, but without the wheels.
$600 dollars I think it was.

[Derek_Walker]

Not sure I would like that Joe, the wheels make the cimex easier to move around in my opinion. I can imagine it being alot more difficult to push and pull the machine around.