[creighton foyle]

i need the name of a leaflet printer who can give me a good price on leaflets and provide somebefore and after examples for me. also i have yellow pages coming on thursday to discuss placing and add for drive / block paving cleaningetc but i am not sure if placing an add will bring much work in,i have looked in my yp book and am struggling to find any drive cleaners in there so what section do they come under ? there are a couple in the driveway and paving section but that section is really for patio and drive installation . i am in swansea

[peter1972]

It might be a bit late, judging from the date of your post, but this might be helpful to others in your situation! www.printcarrier.com is the cheapest printer I have come across. It is all done online, so you do need a pdf in the correct format (which is X1-a, apparently.) Malcolm Page of www.internetdesign.co.uk can produce pdfs pretty cheaply and you just upload it.

Peter

www.nationwidecleaners.co.uk
domestic cleaning services and a management franchise

[tinker]

I agree, we use printcarrier .....apparently they are the cheapest in Europe! a bit tricky to upload but great quality, brilliant leaflets in the end!

[Wc Solutions]

flyers - Gaz at Printmarket uk.

a5 double side, full colour, high gloss

5000 for £80 inc vat n del and design!

2500 i think was around £68.

he even designed me a really good logo for free and sent that to me a seperate file for future use.

i can pm my flyer if you like???

[Phild]

Personally I would forget Yellow Pages especially the paper version. If you do go ahead make sure that every enquiry you receive is asked where they come from. That way you can work out the cost per enquiry. But that's just the start - you then have to remember to work out which ones turn into actual paying jobs. You will have a heart attack at this stage as each job will be costing you ( my guess trying to remember from the days we used to spend £40k / year on Yellow Pages (paper) adverts) something like £50 -£80 quid per paying job. You should have seen the face of the YP rep, who I had been dealing with for 10 years when I told her this in the late '90's but that's another story.

Cutting to the chase. It can be a very expensive way of getting business and you will be dealing with a lot of 'tyre kickers' trying to get a cheap price at the last moment. If you can live with that the only way to look at things is to say to yourself "This customer has cost me £50 quid to acquire. I haven't really made a profit with this my first job but if I think of their 'life time value' I can sell them some other service / remind them next year to get their drive cleaned again / get them to recommend me to their neighbours and give them a tenner voucher off their next job etc"

It's not rocket science but it is hard and constant. The days of simply advertising anywhere and the business simply coming in 'cos you have spent a few quid are long gone. Think about it, if it was as easy as that everyone would be doing it.

Best of luck. Just e-mail me at phil.dixon@newlifecleaning.com if I haven't been clear about anything I have tried to put across.

Phil D