[expro]

Simon is CORRECT the cost of joining CLEAN is £235.

It's simple to work out

1st annual charge £200
 
Entrance exam        £35
 TOTAL                    £235

[Matt Lindus]

Nothing wrong with a set of poor, stinking, retched carpet cleaning mugs trying to claw a living for themselves. Your all desperate and deprived anyhow.

Matt

[Barry Livingstone]

Can i open a book and take bets this gets locked or taken down in the next day or so!!! : :

[james roffey]

Is it me or have some people got far too much time on their hands

I been trawling through all this crap but what a great post Richard
 i have no opinion one way or the other but i am always sceptical,first looking at whos making out of it,sorry to offend as i dont mean to maybe its kind hearted generosity and the good of the industry but at the moment i am trying to get my business started and i will let all this in fighting settle down before i decide which side of the fence i am on : oh and by the way "i hate tests" i did the NCCA one and dont consider myself thick but put a pen in my hand with a set of questions and you might as well say your trousers are on fire the results are the same
Anyway i have hundreds of years experience, if i dont know i come on here of contact the NCCA.

[derek west]

(1) i don't want people getting me work and telling me how much to earn,
(2) i actually heard you were thinking of providing your own brand of chems too,

(1) So if I go out and price up let's say a Premier Inn at £1600  and they want it all done in one day, is it so wrong to put it around that I need four carpet cleaners for 5 hours and I'll give them £400 each. It would be totally impracticable and suicidal to invite the '4' carpet cleaners to all go and have a look and submit prices of £250 £350 £400 and £600. What's going to happen when each finds out what the other got for doing the same amount of work.

(2) Same as above because someone has to make a decision on continuity, not having one using MS another Double Clean and some smart allic with Ultrapac Renovate.

I really think some are trying to find fault just for the sake of finding fault.

neil
what on earth are you getting at with all this premier inn £1600 quid 4 carpet cleaner
i don't want someone getting me work and telling me what i have to do it for,  thats it. nothing else, i can get my own work and i do it very well. . if i did quote for a job and they said we want it doing in a day, i'd call simon and glyn and go thirds on it.
 i'm airing my views on an open forum, nothing nasty or derogatory, just giving my two penneth worth, stop getting all defensive and dat. chill winston

[derek west]

question
are the guys on here that don't think clean is for them or disagree with a few of its ideas, not actually allowed to comment on it and give there reasons why?

surely these comments should be welcomed for future reference. not saying CLEAN should change just because of our disagreements but at least take them on board.

if i was starting an association i'd take more notice of the posters that said they didn't want to join and would welcome there reasons why, rather than berate them at every opportunity.

[Simon Gerrard]

I'm really pleased that CLEAN have now opened up a little and let us know what it is all about and from what we have now been told about how they will operate we can all make a far more informed decision as to whether or not we would won't to join a scheme like that.

I don't want to prolong the debate but I would just like to plead with the leadership of CLEAN to think about what they are doing and recognise that they are not in a position to offer anyone anything other than the hope that from a seedling CLEAN may in time grow  into something that represents value for money for the people willing  to speculate on it in it's start up state and make it clear that any benefit that make come to the members is a very long way off. I think the leadership need to be honest and open about that and it is that lack of honesty and openness coupled to the secrecy about what is proposed that is the source of my vehement opposition to it.
I wish the project well.

Simon

[Jim_77]

I don't want to prolong the debate

Funniest thing I've ever read on this forum!!!!!!



(and that is my only contribution to this ridiculous topic)

[craigp]

I wish the project well.

Simon

This ones pretty funny too!

[Mark Lawrence]

it is that lack of honesty...

Simon

This ones hilarious too ....where does he get these lines? Certainly not from any facts

Mark

[jasonl]

"any benefit that make come to the members is a very long way off."


Tell that to the 46 from monday

[richy27]

"any benefit that make come to the members is a very long way off."


Tell that to the 46 from monday

were you on the mon job jason

[jasonl]

No I am a dirt swirler

[Karen Waterworth]

valid questions put forward by people like Karen Waterworth

And whilst on the subject of hiding things......who exactly is Karen Waterworth?

This post has got to me, what was I hiding, unsure, the question I asked was straight forward, and for that you put my honesty and character into question??
and the second post I put on was about you, why would you do a job for a hotel and do the work and not make a profit, you divided the cost of the job by 4 and not 5?? what about your cut??

[Neil Williams]

This post has got to me, what was I hiding, unsure, the question I asked was straight forward, and for that you put my honesty and character into question??
and the second post I put on was about you, why would you do a job for a hotel and do the work and not make a profit, you divided the cost of the job by 4 and not 5?? what about your cut??

I know I should just ignore anymore comments but somehow some people just need telling.
Karen, at the time of my comment you had made a grand total of 7 posts on Clean it Up, 6 of those were anti CLEAN and the other wasn't unconnected either.
I thought I'd see who you were as I didn't have a clue how someone new to the forum could have such outspoken comments about the subject. Looked at your profile and there was nothing in there. When others do this the alarm bells start ringing because there are many who use false names.
Clearly some people know who you are, I didn't. Hopefully that clears it up for you now.

Quick amendment to post: To answer your 2nd part I was making a point about how you share out the value of a job equally. Please tell me you understand that or else I'm wasting valuable time when I could be doing something else. You can't have one operator getting paid £250 another £400 for exactly the same thing etc etc. Please tell me that makes sense?

[Karen Waterworth]

Thanks Neil for clearing that up for me, I am sorry if it looks like i am anti CLEAN, I dont mean to be, I was just trying to find info about what CLEAN is, now I know it is a business opportunity or co op, I think it is a good idea what these guys have done. But i still think you should not pay for the honor. Again I wish them luck.

Neil like you said "there are many who use false names", I do not,   but again I understand what you mean because false address get used also.

PS I will go and put my web address on my profile straight away, is there a place on the profile for my DNA and fingerprints, sorry only joking

[Carpet Dawg]

Nothing wrong with a set of poor, stinking, retched carpet cleaning mugs trying to claw a living for themselves. Your all desperate and deprived anyhow.

Matt

Cheeky git!

[jasonl]

Nothing wrong with a set of poor, stinking, retched carpet cleaning mugs trying to claw a living for themselves. Your all desperate and deprived anyhow.

Matt

Cheeky git!

So funny , I know of several carpet cleaners scraping by in 500k plus houses , some of them posting on here every day ,, none work long hours , all drive fancy cars and have fancy holidays, I personally take 8-10 weeks a year off on holiday .

Its a hard life .

[clinton]

Well said jason

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Just booked to go to Ingoldmells so does that mean me?

Fantasy Island can't beat it

Shaun