[gaza]

Mike reading it again SORRY GOT THE WRONG BLOKE SCROLLING BACK SOZ SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO RAH,WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER IF PMS WERE STILL ON

 SOZ AGAIN MIKE

 GAZA

[windows_chepstow]

Gaza,

I'm on your side too.  If he's actively targetting your customers by offering them window cleaning at lower prices; he's a mug.

Not only that, he's damaging your business by being one.

Personally, I wouldn't get involved in a price war.  Don't lower your prices either, mate.  Come up with another stategy.

What's the damage so far?

[paulp]

Gaza, you really need to get a grip of yourself and stop moaning about this chap who has taken some of your customers, really, if you were any good in the first place would these customers have gone elsewhere? NO a doubt it.
And as for w/c using ladders, the new HSE law states that as long as you are working safely at a safe hight, (in basic terms for you gaza) there is no problem, also how am i able to get insurance for working up a ladder if it is banned.
At the end of the day gaza, just smile and remember that the longer you use your wfp without a trolly the more customers you will lose.
Happy cleaning buddy

[dennis buller]

THREE MONTHS - just starting work base increasing, i aint had any crossed word with any other window cleaner............ this is the most discouraging thread i have read on this forum.
DENNIS----- I dont undervut anyone yet pick work up from established companies, whom there customers think they had gone sloppy. i am insured and using ladders. am i a COWBOY ?
DENNIS

[gaza]

PAUL P: Have an accident were h/s are involved and you havent got stabilizer system in place,see the insurance you have, aint worth the paper its written on .
see h/s schedule 6 working from temp platforms
see pro  window cleaners second issue brilliant write up.
go throw ur dummy at someone else.

Complaints:  none for 8 months bird crapped on it after cleaned.
SPENT 4,500 ON SYSTEM MAYBE NO COMPARISON. TO A 55 QUID PAIR OF LADDERS FROM BQ THOUGH. + LONG WHEELED TRANNY VAN TO PUT IT ALL IN, SEE IM SERIOUS ABOUT MY BUISS,
iWOULD HAVE GONE WITH DIY SYSTEM BUT 3 YRS AGO NONE OF THIS WAS ABOUT, WE WERE THE PIONEERS,

 GAZA

[gaza]

graham : met a guy who looked like you,spoke like you, didnt like him either

 gaza

[Ian_Giles]

Keep the replies sensible guys, if it descends to pettiness you know what will happen.
If the best you can do is trade insults, your posts will be deleted.

Ian

[gaza]

IAN; HUMOUR IS A SENCE OF ENDEARMENT,EVERYONE LAUGHED WHEN MY MRS MARRIED ME :

 GAZA

[williamx]

Ian

You are right we don't want this topic desending into a slanging match.

But it would be nice if we could lay down a code of conduct on the way a Professional Window Cleaner Should Behave.

[Sir Squeaky]

Sorry, but is this the longest topic ever or what?

Someone start something new!!!!

Roger.

[paulp]

ok how about a new topic on 'what else Gaza could do for a living'

[windows_chepstow]

ok how about a new topic on 'what else Gaza could do for a living'

How about a typist?

[paulp]

ok how about a new topic on 'what else Gaza could do for a living'

How about a typist?

I think he would make a great typist and actually might have to take it up, if this other w/c who is showing initiative and who is obviously better than him takes more of his customers.

[gaza]

PAULP;yOU ARE SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH,,I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CHAT WITH YOU ON PMS BUT THERE NOT HERE ANYMORE,WHERE DO YOU LIVE IF NOT FAR FROM  NOTTM MAYBE POP OVER TO SEE YOU TO SHOW YOU HOW WRONG YOU  ARE.

Someone of this forum came to my house today,took him to see my wfp system,let him ave a go,and hes seen the results that I achieved on windows that was cleaned by a trad w/c.

GAZA

[brett walker]

YES GAZZA THANKS FOR YESTERDAY A VERY GOOD DEMO ON HOW YOUR SYSTEM WORKS . YOU GOT SOME MONEYS WORTH OF EQUIPMENT THERE .  RICHEST MAN IN NOTTM .  I HAVE READ ON THIS FORUM BEFORE WHERE PEOPLE DOUBT OTHERS BUT THEN ARE PROVED WRONG.  LETS ALL HELP EACH OTHER ON THIS FORUM INSTEAD OF CRITISING . 
GAZZA YOUR A  1ST ABC WFP YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN         
 
                                     THANKS

                                        BRETT.

[brett walker]

GAZZA
           YESTERDAY YOU'VE PROVED YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF ABOUT WFP BUT ITS BEEN  PRETTY QUIET WITHOUT YOU ON THE FORUM TODAY HAVE YOU BEEN TO CHURCH MATE ( PUB)
COULD YOU GIVE US ANY IDEA WHEN YOUR RELEASING -WINDOW CLEANER ON MY ROUND - THE SEQUAL

                                 REGARDS

                                   BRETT

[rosskesava]

Yup

Gaza rocks also.

To think he was high up in the world of being a professional footballer.

Now he's a WFP'r.

Cheers

ps I never did believe those newspaper stories about you being violent 

[gaza]

IM NOWallergic to violence,as I  tend to come out in cuts and bruises

 GAZA

[dai]

I can see that more of us could be in Gazza's shoes before long.
The WFP may be the latest and greatest bit of kit, the problem is anyone can learn to use it. Now the one big advantage we had as traditonal wc's was, we were not afraid of ladders. Most middle age guys are not happy on a ladder.
Now any guy or girl whoes knees would knock standing on a chair can learn WFP. I single out middle age guys for this reason. They can take early retirement
With say a 10 grand pension, they me maybe looking for a little job to top up this pension. Mortgage allready paid off, just need a few quid extra for holidays etc. Well window cleaning is a good option, no need to confine themselves to grass cutting and a bit of gardening. Buy a WFP system out of their lump sum and away they go. Pick the right jobs, no ladders to climb.
I can see this happening. If he earns £8 per hour he is well happy.
I dread a customer telling me they don't want their windows done anymore because their old mate from down the road is going to do them. "Just lost his job you know, needs the money". Dai

[steve k]

It is, as we all know, just not that simple to build a round which justifies the expense such a person would have to make.
He would have to go round on the marketing merry go round to find those areas where a customer base existed who either had no window cleaner or no loyalty to their existing cleaner.

You have to have a high level of commitment and spending courage as well as a thoroughly researched plan of income levels to invest in a WFP system and then market it to the extent that you have a round of satisfied customers and an income.

Have faith in your marketing methods, working techniques and professional practices/image and your business should at the very least remain bouyant if someone else in your area decides that window cleaning is easy and they can do it much cheaper than you...they will not last...guaranteed!!

Also keep in regular contact with this forum for regular injections of enthusiasm when your head is a little bit down.