[www.mrgutters.co.uk]

mate play it cool for a little while , see how things go . i had simalar happen to me on my round and this company said they were cheaper did a wholesales speel and i was away on holiday in south africa for 3 weeks when i got back i had lost about 40 customers since then they have all come back now i charge them £5 more per clean than the other customers ,

shawn  

hang in there they aint worth it if they are that quick to drop you ..

[DASERVICES]

  Wow, sorry if I have reminded people of their past. Past is past , we have
  all been lads in the past. Does any other council request that window
  cleaners require a licence to operate. I think this is handy as it stops the
  guy on the dole pinching your round just for a couple of months work.

  In the council next to me there window cleaners undercutting each other
  who are legit. Problem is they are giving window cleaners a bad name.

  Gaza don't worry they will come running back, so bump up the prices to see
  how loyal they are.

  Shawn which part of SA, got any bultong!!!

[gaza]

Thanks SHAWN: a local window cleaner came up with a wicked idea,to go around with a super soaker at night,I politly told him no thanks but loved his sentiment.

 GAZA

[brett walker]

HI GAZZA
               60 ODD REPLIES CANT BE WRONG. THE W-C IN QUESTION THATS BEEN TAKING YOUR CUSTOMERS HE MUST STILL BE LIVING IN THE EARLY 90'S TO BE CHARGING 3.50 PER HOUSE.  SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY ABOUT THIS GEEZER I DONT THINK ANYONE ON THIS FORUM WOULD BE CHARGING 3.50 PER HOUSE STICK TO YOUR PRICES YOUR WORTH MORE THAN 3.50 ...... 3.75 AT LEAST MATE (JOKING)          .  I WOULD SOONER MOVE ON TO DIFFERENT WORK WHERE THE CUSTOMERS APPRECIATE THEIR W-C. AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS EASIER FOR YOU TO REPLACE THEM AT THIS STAGE THEY DONT KNOW WHO THEYVE TAKEN ON I THINK SOMEONES ALREADY MENTIONED ITS BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW           BRETT

[steve k]

windows Chepstow,
I was in the Army(3Para) 1984-1988 and spent 28 days in guardroom detention-NOT Military jail- and I can assure you, this does not and never has come up on my CRB and I have had to apply several times for a certificate. The screening I had to go through to become a signatory for the CRB was intense and it still never showed up.
Graham G, if you are not being asked to and provided with a CRB application form, you should not be disclosing any offences to any body/authority.
The fed are wrong here I can assure you. If they wish to know about convictions of applicants, they have to be a registered body with the CRB and have you fill in appropriate forms.
They also have to abide with the Data Protection Act and I would ask where this information is going to and where it is held.
The CRB operates very strict guidelines which are issued to registered bodies determining the steps to be taken when an applicant has convictions and how to arrive at a decision as to whether the conviction merits a rejection of employment or membership. An ex.offender can not be discriminated against because of offences merely because he has an offence on his CRB certificate. A lot of variable have to be considered before such a decision is made.

Windows Chepstow...nearly did the same at one point...a couple of us were on the way to 2REP ( french foreign Legion Parachute Regiment)

I would probably still be there had I gone but decided to stay in Aldershot and had a great time for 4 and a half years.
Cheers
Steve

[gaza]

IAN: MY NEW TOPIC HAS VANISHED, DISSAP   , VAMOUS  ,
GON  ,BITS  EEP  ISAP EARIN  INCE STOPPED PMS

 G ZA

[Ian_Giles]

Gaza,

Which 'new topic' 

Sometimes it can be easier to do a search, or go to your profile and view your last posts.
I've found 'topics' of my own that seemed to have got lost that way.

I've not deleted any of your posts dude.....windows_chepstow always beats me to it

Regards,


Ian

[windows_chepstow]

I was in the Army(3Para) 1984-1988 and spent 28 days in guardroom detention-NOT Military jail
Steve

Steve,

On a hair-splitting excercise; there's no such thing as 'military jail'.  Even MCTC Collchester stands for 'Military Corrective Training Centre'; not jail.  If you do something really naughty, you move directly to civil jail; do not pass go.

Anyway, are you sure you were a Para?  You can type and spell and stuff!

Gazza,

I've not deleted any of your threads recently, Mate!

Are you clicking the correct icons for posting new threads?

[gaza]

windupers chepstow and IAN: Might be my mistake in the end,not thinking strait at the mo.

Heads spinning never thought get caught with my pants down,
My main problem is no trolley system,all strait from the van with hoses,sometimes Ive over 50 meters of hose out around hedges etc.

GETTING IT SORTED SHORTLY

 GAZA

[williamx]

Gazza

Kept your eyes peeled.

I am building a complete trolley system which should be able to carry enough water for 10 house cleans will go over most terrains and down most alleyways it will also have enough hose to reach any house that is 330 feet away from you, for them hard to reach areas.

It will be on ebay shortly

[gaza]

William THANKS FOR THE TIP,WILL LOOK AT IT,when youve built it , but only a week or two from finishing mine.My pockets empty at mo but plans are ahead.

William thought a trolley was suppose to cut down on hose use,only plan to have 5/10 metres of hose.

 GAZA

[steve k]

Chepstow
I used the term Jail for non military readers...but also to distinguish between guardroom detention which both you and I served and time in Colchester which is deemed imprisonment and is recorded as such on a CRB certificate.
Colchester is a jail to all intents and legal purposes, but is primarily used to accommodate military offenders who have a chance of returning to their units.

Like most of my 3 Para colleagues, I went to school...!!??

[williamx]

Gazza

I've got 4 systems

1  A van one where I just pull up open side door out with hose and off I go.

2  A backpack which is ok for them hard to reach areas or you have to go though houses.

3  A trolley system which is ok but you are limit on how many houses you can clean before you run out of water and if you do terraced houses, going down back alley can be sometimes impossible, this is where a 100m hose reel attached to the trolley will come in very useful.

4  A garden trolley which carrys 8  x 25 litres barrels and the trolley, comes in useful when you have a lot of cleans on one road.

[williamx]

Gazza

Have you thought about pricing this guy off your round.

If it was me I would tell this window cleaner that because he is undercutting you and telling some of your customers porky pies that you will now be charging your customers £1.00 per house per clean.

Before you think I've gone completly round the bend listen to these reasons why I think it would work.

1  He works with 2 other people so they are going to have to clean 3 houses to every one you clean just to make the same amount of money that you do.

2  If he is a legal window cleaner and he employs these people then he has to pay them the minimum wage plus national insurance contubutions which would work out at £6.00 per hour per man so at £1.00 per house he is going to have to clean 12 houses per hour to break even without making a penny for himself

3  If he is not legal and you tell him you intend to inform the local DSS and Tax office to check him out.  He will leave your area very quickly.  I would also do this because if he is illegal its your business going down the drain.

4  If he is legal then it comes down to who can last the longer, but you have the advantage.

Ideally you should also be working in other areas of town where this problem does not exist and you can earn a decent amount of money.

I have done this in the past and its worked for me.

[gaza]

William your spot on :my plan of action is to write a formal letter to all my customers ,its 5 squid from now on 4.50 to pensioners still make about17 20 squid an hr more when done round first clean,only used pole on my commercial work before because of length of gardens.
 They must ring my mobile, if they want me to do their windows at this price, if they dont ring its bye bye see you in the winter were the price is 6 squid. up front each month.

WILLIAM IVE THANKED THE ONES WHO SAID NO TO MOVING OVER ,BY OFFERING THEM SOME OF MY OTHER BUISS ADD ONS, LIKE PATIO CLEANS AND GUTTER CLEANING,AT  A LOT LOWER PRICE THAN I DO CHARGE NORMALLY.

Going down the route you said you did have a canvasser [think it was you anyway] know the right person a loverly women on my round whose a kiss o gram [never kissed me though] should be interesting.

THOUGHT OF THE DAY :If I dont change direction soon
Ill end up were Im going.

 gaza

William souds as though youve a proper Mrs set up


.

[williamx]

I'm always looking to make my job faster and more profitable thats why I am making a new type of trolley thats not on the market at present., that will do ever kind of clean possible in the fastest and safest way.

Because at the end of the day time = MONEY and if I can do more houses per day then I'm going to be a rich S.O.B.

Anyway the new trolley will be on ebay soon price will including free delivery England only.  I will also set it up and spend the day showing how it works and how to clean windows.  Including any tips that I have come across which makes it more user friendly.

Text changed by moderator, sorry William, you aren't allowed to put prices on here

[RAHomeServices]

There is no such thing as "my round". At the end of the day it is natural for people to seek the lowest price, however if you provide an excellent service then you have nothing to fear because in our experience customers will tend to remain with the same window cleaner even if their prices are more expensive as long as they provide an excellent service.

Regards

R & A Home Services
Residential / Commercial Window & General Cleaners

[Mike_G]

Why is there no such thing as my round? Of course there is, your work is your round, you may lose some of it and may add to it but it is still a round and if you do it then it's your round and if it is not your round,  then who's round is it?

[gaza]

MIKE G : So your car is your car even though you worked hard to achieve it,your mrs isnt your mrs cus you work hard to to keep her  and the family

What would you say if someone came and sneakly took them away. deprived you of the enjoyment OF THE SAID

I know it is a bit of a weird way of looking at it but what Ive worked hard to achieve I believe Ive every right to call it my round .
Look at this way how many times have you told people my job is blah blah,point being its not your job if you dont own a job,so in reality your unemployed. THIS ALL SWINGS ON THE WORD MY.

 GAZA

[Mike_G]

Gaza  I am on your side mate, I think the guy is bang out of order he should only target houses that have no present window cleaner and if someone approaches him and says there are not happy with their present window cleaner then I guess that fair enough. There is enough work out there without stepping on anyones toes. My previous post was directed at the guy who thinks there is no such thing as "MY ROUND"