[Marc's on the Glass, LLC]

OK... This thread is nearly an official chat room.  Gotta start a new thread or something, eh.

[Marc's on the Glass, LLC]

Yeah, that must be it.

Gaza,

What is the status on your new buddy?

[rosskesava]

Hi Graham

I think your'e missing the point.

What point was that?

[gaza]

MARC: PLAN C: KEEP IT CLOSE TO MY CHEST,COULD BE LISTENING IN ,LET YOU KNOW WHEN ITS DONE.

iTS NOT OVER TILL TILL ITS OVER,
I also think Ive sussed someone else whos been on my patch on here  If you do painting etc you know who you are,why not say HI? Nice shinny ladders you had,nice to see youve got them dirty at last[GOOD LUCK PAL FOR YOUR NEW FUTURE IN W/C]
Paul from Eastwood WELCOME ABOARD  YOU WANT A MEETING  dont know if your w/f/p or ladders? thatS 4 from NOTTS ON HERE but ONE wont own up to it will you ROY

Paul if your not wfp and would like to have a look at what it involves Iwill give you a chance as Eastwood isnt a stones throw from here YOUR PLACE OR MINE. have a word better still a beer.
how about the Wellington?
gaza

[gaza]

EASY:Im afraid SHINER will need elec,how is SHINER to pump water from his storage tank from his flat to his van ?
SHINER stated he was quite a distance from the road dont think a 100 psi punp will pump that far,but dont know the distance.UNLESS HE INVESTED IN A TRANSFER PUMP.

ANYWAY  SHINER will still need electric to charge his batteries up
SHINER if you went ro way , I would check your beams out, might get your water down to the bottom floor quicker than you think
 GAZA

[Ian_Giles]

I'm gonna have to put the moderator hat on fella's, nothing wrong with the thread as such...except it is now on a totally different subject Time to lock it unless it gets back to the original line of the thread.

Regards,

Ian

[Ray Pickering]

Gaza.
I'm from Notts--i've got shiney new ladders--i've never been involved with painting, but i am a new window cleaner, as for working on your patch-- i'm not sure where my patch is yet,(if you mean me) i don't know who this Roy is my names Ray.

If you think it might be me taking your work lets have a meet & hopefully sort it out nice & friendly.

Regards Ray.

[gaza]

ROY,I THINK WE MAY HAVE ALREADY MET, HAVE YOU JUST BOUGHT A VAN?
just trying to wind u up abit, TO GET YOU  TO SHOW YOUR SELF ON HERE COULD NEVER FIND YOU ON HERE BUT KNEW YOU WERE FROM NOTTM AREA [SCARRY IN IT] no its not u on my patch but think your name is familier do you do some work in toton or sawley area?
 ROY GIVE ME A RING ON  078859916999

gaza

[Ray Pickering]

Hi Gaza.
The number you gave me has not been recognised.
I think you trying to wind me up (& it's working) why do you keep calling me Roy.
Ray.

[gaza]

RAY: SORRY FOR WINDING YOU UP [NOT INTENDED I CAN ASSURE YOU}that is my no,just put it on charge though give me a ring or put your mob no on here give you a ring .

 gaza

[gaza]

RAY: SEE YOU TOMMORROW AS I SAID WORKING ON YOUR STREET[CANNY AINT IT]MENTION SOMEWHERE 5 MILES AWAY AND YOU LIVE ON IT,

 LOOK FORWARD TO SORTING YOU OUT[with some work]
AT LEAST YOULL HAVE MORE PENNIES GOING THROUGH YOU BEER ACCOUNT.
   gaza
 

[Paul Coleman]

ROY,I THINK WE MAY HAVE ALREADY MET, HAVE YOU JUST BOUGHT A VAN?
just trying to wind u up abit, TO GET YOU  TO SHOW YOUR SELF ON HERE COULD NEVER FIND YOU ON HERE BUT KNEW YOU WERE FROM NOTTM AREA [SCARRY IN IT] no its not u on my patch but think your name is familier do you do some work in toton or sawley area?
 ROY GIVE ME A RING ON  078859916999

gaza

Gaza.
Is it OK if I phone you sometime please? It sounds like the type of van mounting system you have (or similar) may be the way for me to go when I start WFP next Spring.  You have responded on here but I think some of the other responses have clouded the issue about what I'm trying to ask.
Apologies to the mods for the thread drifting like this but it can be awkward without a personal message system and it is important to me to start off with the equipment that's right for me and my circumstances.

Paul

[gaza]

SHINER////; GIVE ME A RING BY ALMEANS: MY NO IS [07859916999]
GAZA

[gaza]

IM back with plan C 
  HIT MAN
gaza

[texas girl]

What goes around comes around.

Guaranteed. Remain of good character and honesty and do not sell yourself short.

And enjoy your work!  I promise you that you will be fine. I used to get ticked off also when someone wants to work for peanuts. Sooner or later it all comes back to you.

Never sink low to do what is not right.

Hugs,

Texas Girl

[Paul Coleman]

IM back with plan C 
  HIT MAN
gaza

Gaza.  I once lost a few (a very few) customers to a guy who was undercutting me.  I got his number from a customer and phoned him up.  He sounded very wary at first over the phone.  Anyway, the following transpired:  I offered to give him, free of charge, a bit of work that I no longer wanted (awkward access etc).  Once he realised I wasn't about to chew his nuts off, he told me about a supplier of window cleaning equipment that saved me quite a bit of money.  We did eventually meet while out working.  It turned out he was a fireman who was window cleaning part-time.  Turned out he was a really nice guy.
I think that the worst thing this other guy has done to you was the bit when he told your customers that you had quit.  That was seriously wrong of him.
I hope to ring you later on today if that's OK.  I've left it until Saturday because I can phone mobiles fairly cheaply at the weekend (3p a minute).  It's pretty expensive during the week.

Best of luck,

Paul

[gaza]

SHINER PAUL: ENJOYED THE CHAT PAL,NICE TO BE OF SERVICE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO KNOW DONT HESITATE TO PHONE ME UP.
it seems a mire with ro/di systems[dont loose sleep over it]

phone these big companies up and get a free demo,as coming from south to Nottingham your more than welcome to have a day with me [cheap labour]
TALK again shortly I hope you problem with getting water has been put to rest now with using two tanks [limited disturbance ]
you know what I mean. even cleaning warehouse liked the idea[told them its copyrighted to me] wouldnt be suprised if I dont see this system being made comercial shortly.

 IF only it was copyrighted to me like winning the lottery .
looking at cheap copyrighting at the moment. so dont mention it to anyone please Paul

 GAZA

[gaza]

BACKwith this old nutmeg: COUNTING LOSS OF NEARLY 800 SQUID FROM WORK POACHED BY THIS LYING CHEATING SWINDLING WINDOW CLEANER, GETTING FUNNY PHONE CALLS ,HE TELLS CUSTOMERS uses w/f/p/ .No he doesnt , just a pair of ladders propped against the wall,told my ex customers that you can work like this. AND THAT iM JUST TRYING TO RIP THEM OFF.

MYSELF MAYBE SPENT NOW 6/7 THOUSAND POUND TO CONFORM FULLY WITH H/S NEW REGS van wfps +building a trolley system, for this upstart to come and undercut me by 1.50p ,by the way before any of you say my work is substandard thats why Ive lost them,think again pal.

JUST PHONED HSE AND ASKED THEM TO READ OUT THE NEW REGS.

THIS BEING DONE,HES BREAKING EVERY CODE OF CONDUCT.
also A YOUNG LAD WORKING FOR HIM.HES GOT TO PAY HIM+STAMP +EMPLOYEES INSURANCE +PUBLIC LIABILITY AT3.50 for 7/8 windows and two doors,hes got to be fiddling somewhere?

MY QUESTION IS DO I GRASS HIM TO SOCIAL AND H/S OR WOULD THIS LOWER MY STANDARD.AS THERE IS ANOTHER WAY OF DEALING WITH IT AND IT WONT PREETY.[BUT TO YOU PACIFICISTS ON HERE PUT YOURSELF IN MY PLACE WHAT WOULD YOU DO.

 GAZA

[Marc's on the Glass, LLC]

Gaza... from one PROFESSIONAL business man to another:  If anyone uses such underhanded tactics to take away business that I have developed (this man's strategy is dishonest and unethical, and apparently the way he works, illegal), then I would DEFINTELY get any authority involved that I could. 

I really don't mind rehashing some of the debate.  When I started my window cleaning business, I got a business licence, insurance, paid taxes, did everything on the up and up.  From all views, I have a legal and upstanding practice.  No one should try to run a small business otherwise.

Gaza, I would not hesitate one more second!  Nail the guy!!  Do it in a legal, professional way.  Get the HS involved.  No way anyone should get such an advantage or hurt your business through lies and illegal business practice.        NO WAY!!

[gaza]

Thanks Marc : FOR YOUR VOTE,TO PROCEED the way I thought I should,having learnt off this forum the error of my ways for the last 40 yrs, hit 1st, then tell them after, why you did it ,as you stand over them.I WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT OTHERS SAYS 1ST MARC.but at least were winning 2_0 at the moment Marc
 gaza