[gaza]

DAI : EXACTLY THE SAMES JUST HAPPENNED TO ME.

So all you critics watch your back [hes coming to a place near you soon] and for you micky mousers who thought you knew it all if you can match me for equipment lets have a show off.
FIRST OF ALL MY WEBSITE ADDRESS IS WORTH AS MUCH AS YOUR HOUSE, ARE YOU READY FOR THIS

                   1ST-ABC.CO.UK

ITS BEEN RE WRITTEN AT THE MO BUT THATS MY DOMAIN LOCK STOCK AND BARREL,SO WERE EVER YOU ARE  ill be on top of you  stupid I ANT

THANKS BRETT FOR PUTTING SOME OF THESE DONALD MOUSERS RIGHT ON HERE.it was a pleasure to  meet you and show you how things work,do it again sometime,anyone who wants educating on wfp I would be available to show you  if you were prepared to come to NOTTM  AND BUY ME A FEW BEERS AFTER.
To all of you who have given me insperation during a difficult time may you prosper with your bizz,and to all others.



 
 GAZA

[steve k]

Gaza
who or what are you referring to when you say "mickey Mousers" - "Donald Mousers"...

[gaza]

Steve:just a few  on here who have placed negative responces,ABOUT BEING UNDER EQUIPED,and I dont think that includes yourself Steve in that list.

FOR A START IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN PRODUCE PURE WATER AS THEY DRIVE AROUND IN THEIR VAN
 I CARRY 1000 LITRES OF TAP WATER AND PRODUCE IT INTO A 250 LITRE TANK AT THE PUSH OF A BUTTON WHILE IM DRIVTNG
GAZA

[williamx]

Gazz

I drink a lot and seem to produce a fair amount of water

[gaza]

WILLIAM: PMSL
gaza

[Paul Coleman]

Steve:just a few  on here who have placed negative responces,ABOUT BEING UNDER EQUIPED,and I dont think that includes yourself Steve in that list.

FOR A START IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN PRODUCE PURE WATER AS THEY DRIVE AROUND IN THEIR VAN
 I CARRY 1000 LITRES OF TAP WATER AND PRODUCE IT INTO A 250 LITRE TANK AT THE PUSH OF A BUTTON WHILE IM DRIVTNG
GAZA

Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice.  Would save a load of hassle.

[gaza]

SHINER: ALL YOU NEED IS TWO TANKS.1 x 1000 litres tank 1 x250 litre tank
Fill the largest tank 1000 litres with tap water put a hose on it to feed at gravity level,place an inline whale pump,run a hose to your di vessel and run it into your storage tank,the next di vessel will polish it before sending up the pole[ or better still use a submersed pump,but then you carnt draw water of when you need it to make a cuppa char[ see even got a kettle in my van]

 gaza
ps short of nothing Ive got

[Paul Coleman]

SHINER: ALL YOU NEED IS TWO TANKS.1 x 1000 litres tank 1 x250 litre tank
Fill the largest tank 1000 litres with tap water put a hose on it to feed at gravity level,place an inline whale pump,run a hose to your di vessel and run it into your storage tank,the next di vessel will polish it before sending up the pole[ or better still use a submersed pump,but then you carnt draw water of when you need it to make a cuppa char[ see even got a kettle in my van]

 gaza
ps short of nothing Ive got

Gaza.  I've been looking at a water map.  Are you in a hard water area or a semi-hard?  It looks like you are borderline if you are around Nottingham.  If it's possible to do that in a hard water area, it may be worthwhile me looking at something similar.

Paul

[williamx]

The Shiner

If you are in a hard water area and you have not got a RO unit then you can run the tap water though several Di tanks and the resin will last longer and therefore becomes economical, I would recommend 3 DI tanks for very hard areas.

[Paul Coleman]

The Shiner

If you are in a hard water area and you have not got a RO unit then you can run the tap water though several Di tanks and the resin will last longer and therefore becomes economical, I would recommend 3 DI tanks for very hard areas.

I don't even have a WFP system yet  but I am looking at the feasability of it, what's available, and how I can adapt things around my living circumstances.
What Gaza wrote has interested me for several reasons.
I live in an upstairs flat so installing a holding tank indoors would be impractical due to concerns about leakage into the flat below and the difficulties transferring purified water from tank to van (my flat is a long way from the road).
The difficulties with having an RO van mount would be that the filling up would have to take place quite slowly overnight.  The difficulties with this are the lack of access to a tap (particularly for a long period) and also the drainage issues.  This would also deprive me of the use of my vehicle if needed.
However, having a van mounted holding tank that could be fast filled with the filtering taking place into a second, smaller van mounted could solve my problems.  I could fast fill from a borrowed tap then the filtering could take place overnight within the van.  I guess that the smaller tank could have an RO unit as that would not need to fill so quickly.  A 250 litre tank could probably supply my daily needs if it is purifying water "on the fly" and if there is a fair bit of pure water in it at the start of the day.
Gaza says he has a 1,000 litre + 250 litre system.  I imagine that 750 litre + 250 litre would be enough for me.  It would require a hefty payload though and a van upgrade (I only have an Escort 55 currently).  I suppose the payload situation could be assisted if you ensure that the larger tank isn't filled unless the pure water tank is empty.

I'm not sure about your suggestion of 3 DI tanks.  For the reasons stated above, the holding tank and the pure water tank would all need to be on board.  I have considered the possibility of a 375 litre trailer system but I would need to figure out a secure place to leave it overnight while doing the slow fill.

All I know about these issues is what I;ve read on here in the past few weeks.  It may be that I've got totally the wrong end of the stick but I would be interested in looking further.
It's unlikely I will be financially able to lay out (borrow) the money to set this up until next Spring but no harm in discussing my options well ahead of time.

[williamx]

The Shiner

You would not need any of the equipment that you mentioned, I also live in a flat and what I do is run a hose from my kitchen tap to my DI bottle which is located in my van I can then get as much pure water as I need, because I live in a soft water area with tds reading of 70 I only need 1 DI bottle, but I will be getting another one soon to run in tamden and so making my resin last longer.

Because you live in a hard water area, if you had 3 DI bottles and set them uo so the tap water goes into the first bottle it then transfers it to the second bottle which then does the same to the third bottles, from this bottle you fill up your water containers and off to work you go.

You can also fill up this way while you are at you customers houses, most will agree unless they are on water meters.

If you set up you water needs this way you would not need to upgrade you van.

[Paul Coleman]

The Shiner

You would not need any of the equipment that you mentioned, I also live in a flat and what I do is run a hose from my kitchen tap to my DI bottle which is located in my van I can then get as much pure water as I need, because I live in a soft water area with tds reading of 70 I only need 1 DI bottle, but I will be getting another one soon to run in tamden and so making my resin last longer.

Because you live in a hard water area, if you had 3 DI bottles and set them uo so the tap water goes into the first bottle it then transfers it to the second bottle which then does the same to the third bottles, from this bottle you fill up your water containers and off to work you go.

You can also fill up this way while you are at you customers houses, most will agree unless they are on water meters.

If you set up you water needs this way you would not need to upgrade you van.

Thanks for the tip.  However,  my flat is a long way from the road and my neighbours are the sort of people who would probably grass me up for using the flat for commercial purposes.  There are disabled people around here who are wheelchair users.  They would complain if a hose ran across the footpath for even a short period of time.  If I was unable to work they would complain about me being a "sponger" too.  There is a seriously bad attitude in this area with plenty of people who know their rights, want to know everyone elses business, yet know little about personal responsibilities.  I can't afford to move though.
I'm taking the view that if I need to change the way I work, then I would want to be quoting for jobs that are currently beyond me.
It is a tough call for me to make and knowing that 3 lots of DI filtering is sufficient could well prove to be useful to me one day - even if a direct line from home to van is not practical.
Tell me William.  Is fast filling possible when only DI filtering is required then?  Having a fast fill is important to me I think.

Paul

[williamx]

A dI method is the most cheapest and fastest method to get pure water, I think that the best ro unit on the market takes longer, I also think that a ro unit needs 240v for it to work.

[Paul Coleman]

A dI method is the most cheapest and fastest method to get pure water, I think that the best ro unit on the market takes longer, I also think that a ro unit needs 240v for it to work.

Yes I do understand that an RO unit is a slower fill.  Needing a 240V electricity supply is a new one on me though.  That could mess things up.  It could be quite a hassle sorting out water supply and drainage (if required) but needing electricity too could be a bit awkward.

All I want to do is earn a decent living without too much hassle and have a bit of relative freedom at the same time.

Paul

[baldeagle]

Shiner,

Have you considered renting, [or buying], a lock-up garage that has a water supply?

One with an electricity supply would be nice, but that might be asking for too much.

Baldeagle, in a very wet Staffordshire

[Paul Coleman]

Shiner,

Have you considered renting, [or buying], a lock-up garage that has a water supply?

One with an electricity supply would be nice, but that might be asking for too much.

Baldeagle, in a very wet Staffordshire

Yes I have considered it.  I do already rent one that does not have a supply.  However, garages with a supply are hard to come by around here.  Needing drainage would be an issue too.  Also, getting to and from such a garage could be awkward as my van would be tied up to a water supply if using RO filtering.  I seem to be going around in circles with this.  I will find a way around it though.  I won't be leaping into WFP cleaning until next spring so I've plenty of time to figure something out.

Paul

[gaza]

WILLIAM:DI IS THE CHEPO METHOD ONLY IF YOU LIVE IN A SOFT WATER AREA. it seems expensive to me with a tds reading of 264+ =
                                                                                        SHINER
 YOU NEED TO TEST YOUR WATER FOR HARDNESS 1ST BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION DI OR RO.

Your local water board will tell you if you live in a hard water or soft water area . Or send a test sample of your water Andrews  Water WHO WILL TEST IT FREE OF CHARGE and give you a report

 GAZA

[paulp]

Gaza, iam in Eastwood just outside Notts, i would love to see your wfp and also you could make me laugh by HAVING A WORD WITH ME,

[Davindo Cleana]

Shiner - I am in exact position and with hight TDS - the only answer I could get was to site the tank at a relatives - nearest is 20 miles - but at least it will get me started - ultimately it's a case of finding more suitable premises - good luck

[easycleanwindows]

i run two reels from a 700ltr tank every day and i use 3 x 25ltr resin cylinders every three weeks. i bought a merlin which fills my tank from empty within 5 hours.even now my water bill has gone up by 200 pounds per 6 months my resin costs have gone down by 2,598 per  6 months so i am saving a lot of money by doing it with merlin. also you dont need a garage or electric to run a merlin ro and worth the investment.