[Nick Head]

Hi

All I am remodeling the spreadsheet with more explanation of what cost goes where and how to calculate a the final cost etc.

The Spreadsheet is a bit too basic, I will resend it out to you all within the next day or so.

Thanks

Nick

[Pristine Clean]

Suffolk

I would be intersted to see how much you would price it up for?

Dave

[Steve Lowe]

Hi Nick

Could you e mail me a copy please 

stevelowe@lowescleaning.com

Steve

[suffolkclean]

God Dave don't put me under that kind of pressure  I'll visit the place tomorrow & find out exactly whats required.
If they generally have monday-friday cleans is it silly to ask 'do you want a clean on a bank holiday'? or do I automatically factor this in? suppose the only way to see where BH falls is referring to diary - am I right or am I making it too complicated (cos it seems it)

[Nick Head]

Hi

I have emailed you with an explanation which should help re Bank Holiday and the other questions

Nick

[Pristine Clean]

God Dave don't put me under that kind of pressure  I'll visit the place tomorrow & find out exactly whats required.
If they generally have monday-friday cleans is it silly to ask 'do you want a clean on a bank holiday'? or do I automatically factor this in? suppose the only way to see where BH falls is referring to diary - am I right or am I making it too complicated (cos it seems it)

No presure.

It all depends if you are working for yourself or you are running a business. If you were doing the cleaning then its alot of profit.

If you thought that was minimal profit. Let me tell you this. We had a large one off clean to do. A big furniture building. Over 3 levels warehouse. Wew do window cleaning but were pushed with time so I subbed the windows out.

I got a few quotes in and a large national window cleaning company quoted me and showed me their break down. They also subbed the work.

So I subbed it to them, they then sub it to someone else. The window cleaning was around £700 mark. Their markup was like £15 quid.

So thats presure! How do they earn?

As to bank hols I put that in. As you have to pay your staff. Wether in or not. But if they are in you need to give them extra for working...

Dave

[suffolkclean]

Hi Dave & Nick
Just got back, they don't want me to include cleaning on bank holidays, we to supply vacuum,mops, cleaning things. Then show extra cost to clean the tea towels 1/2 times a week and an extra cost to supply sanitary towel box in ladies & have it emptied. we currentlt pay £6.50 hr to cleaners as its as & when required work, I think to be competetive we need to pay £6 but can't reduce wages?
Barbara

[dianegreenwood]

Hi Barbara

I'm sure I replied to this post already but my answer disappeared 

I think you've now had better advice than I could have given but one tip is to always ask the client what they are currently paying when you do the walk round.  Most will tell you and it makes it a lot easier because sometimes you have to accept you just can't compete. 

If it helps, we charge £12 to £15 per hour with no charge for bank holidays.  Any lower than that and we'd have to pay peanuts and get monkeys   However, we don't have any office contracts over 25 hours per week so we're going for the small clients rather than trying to compete with the big boys.

Cheers

Diane

www.freshlymaid.co.uk

[Pristine Clean]

Hi Dave & Nick
Just got back, they don't want me to include cleaning on bank holidays, we to supply vacuum,mops, cleaning things. Then show extra cost to clean the tea towels 1/2 times a week and an extra cost to supply sanitary towel box in ladies & have it emptied. we currentlt pay £6.50 hr to cleaners as its as & when required work, I think to be competetive we need to pay £6 but can't reduce wages?
Barbara

Hi Barbara,

The sanitary bins at cost price and to have them emptied on a 12 months contract, 12 visits per year at cost would be around £75.00 per year. You wont get involved in that except organise it and sub it as you need a Waste Transfer Note and a licenced waste carrier. If you need a contractor let me know. You can add a £10 - 15 pounds on.

We would throw in the cleaning of the tea towels for free

Er
What do you mean here
"we currentlt pay £6.50 hr to cleaners as its as & when required work" Is it that you dont have them full time, just as and when you need help?

If so if you ask them and say you have regular work they may work for the £6.00 Just draw up a contract. Its a different position. Just Move them over and change there job title.

Or leave them on £6.50 and take a little less out the contract as its only £5.00 per week .. if I have done the math right.

Grab it while you can.

Just a thought here:

Do they have existing cleaners? If so TUPE will play a big part - they need to transfer over

If not why not hire differtent staff - and pay them £6.00 - you cover while you find the staff


Dave

[suffolkclean]

Dave - I was thinking all the things you've mentioned regards to wages - in your experience for office cleaning do you generally pay £6 per hr. To be competetive & make a profit I think this is what we have to pay.
We have a cleaner at the moment who is very good, shes not yet had her contract of employment but has been taken on at £6.50 hr.

[Nick Head]

Barbara,

Dave has covered most things in his reply. As to the rate of pay this is your call, you can pay our staff £6 ph or take a hit and pay them £6.50. Personally I would pay £6.00ph, as you would be reducing your conributions to overheads and profit by atleast £250 pa.

Re TUPE this has caught us all out in the past and worth checking out the link I sent you. It is not a problem as long as you are sensible and follow the guidelines.

Naturally if you need any more assistance - either drop me a line or call me.

The revised spreadsheet is nearly finished with more guidance and will be finished tonight.

Nick

[Pristine Clean]

We do find that if we need to compete with some really big boys we need to hire new staff on the minimim wage.

If the contract is near the Town Centre then you should not have an issue in finding staff. If they need to travel by car then you will need to pay a little extra to entice them.

Like I said before some contracts are making a loss, or breaking even but overall combined contracts then there is a good profit.

Obviously not knowing all ins and outs, this is what I would do,

Cover the contract until you can hire new staff at £6.00 or even min wage
Throw in a Free teatowel service. - If this is required you need to know how many teatowels per week. Normally you give the cleaner a few quid extra to wash them /  iron them
Give them a quote for the sani bin as low as possible. - Sometimes we just add £5 on top.

Work out you materials, chemicals. - I dont know if you actually use the correct dilution rates. But if you dont then start. You will be amazed at how much you save. - You can get squirters for the 5 litre cans.

Also look for an alternative cleaning chemical that will be cheaper than the one you are using. It all adds up at the end of the year.

You could even change the vaccum you are using. Henrys cost around £100, truvox valet only cost us around £50.00. But the cable is not as long.

You have to way it all up.

You either want it.... or you dont.

Dave


 

[Pristine Clean]

Barbara,

Dave has covered most things in his reply. As to the rate of pay this is your call, you can pay our staff £6 ph or take a hit and pay them £6.50. Personally I would pay £6.00ph, as you would be reducing your conributions to overheads and profit by atleast £250 pa.

Re TUPE this has caught us all out in the past and worth checking out the link I sent you. It is not a problem as long as you are sensible and follow the guidelines.

Naturally if you need any more assistance - either drop me a line or call me.

The revised spreadsheet is nearly finished with more guidance and will be finished tonight.

Nick

Nick,

I wont sleep until I get the revised copy. Can you tell I am eager....really really really eager.

Dave

[suffolkclean]

I can't thank you enough for all your help & advice on this - its been great - I'll let you know how we get on.

[Nick Head]

Hi

I have resent the spreadsheet to you all - hopefully it is clearer and of use

Anyone I have missed please let me know

Regards

Nick

[Pj]

Hi Nick

I did send you an email request

Thanks
Pj

[starplus]

Hi Nick,
can I please have a copy .

slb0078@yahoo.co.uk

Many Thanks
Sergio

[robert eyres]

Thanks Nick

[nat1]

Hi Nick, could you please send me a copy of the spreadsheet?  many thanks Natalie. natalie@brooklandscleaningservices.com

[Freddie Eureka]

Nick, May I have a copy, pls

fue@hotmail.co.uk