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gewindows

Insulated tank
« on: January 12, 2010, 07:48:31 am »
I filled my van tank up last night, and by the time I went to bed the water temp was well over 50°C, approaching 60.

Over the last day or two I have also been insulating the tank with loft insulating stuff from B+Q, that stuff which is on a roll. And then lining the tank with ply, over the insulating, to make a neat job of it and have somewhere to fix some shelves to.

Came down this morning and checked temp in tank, its still over 50°C, considering its probably floating around 0°C or slightly below outside I was impressed.

Jack Wallace

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 08:26:12 am »
That seems very hot, I would be worried about cracking the glass.


luther1

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 08:28:38 am »
By the time it gets out of the brush it will be nowhere near that temp so it will be fine. Good job Matt!

Dennis Taylor

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 08:48:50 am »
Mat,
I may have missed a post on how you heat your water to that temp, what are you using.
It is obviosly doing a grand job.

Dennis

gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 08:55:59 am »
I invested in a 3KW heater, just the the same as an aquarium heater but made from Titanium, so cant smash.
 
Most aquarium heaters only go up to 300W and will therefore only heat the water to 30°C; this thing keeps on going.

mark dew

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 09:04:26 am »
I invested in a 3KW heater, just the the same as an aquarium heater but made from Titanium, so cant smash.
 
Most aquarium heaters only go up to 300W and will therefore only heat the water to 30°C; this thing keeps on going.

Where did you buy that. And how much?

Dennis Taylor

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 09:09:52 am »
That sounds the biz mate, how long does it take to get the water to that sort of temp ? is it a drop in the tank type or do you have to pump your water through it.
Which ever it sounds the biz.

Dennis

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 09:13:34 am »
Any pics uncle bateman ?
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

pingu

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 10:02:23 am »
Matt do you think a controller would help in the heating process?

Cheers
Dave.

gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 01:38:38 pm »
Matt do you think a controller would help in the heating process?

Cheers
Dave.

Yes mate it would. They are expensive, £135.00 but Im going to get one, other thermostats for aquariums arent intended for a piece of kit that requires such large wattage, so they'll burn out. Which is a shame as they retail for about £15.00


Any pics uncle bateman ?

I will mate, later, hopefully.


That sounds the biz mate, how long does it take to get the water to that sort of temp ? is it a drop in the tank type or do you have to pump your water through it.

It took abotu 5 hours to heat it to that temp, possibly a little longer, I think as weather conditions improve it wont take so long as the outside temp is going to influence it slightly.




Where did you buy that. And how much?

From here http://shop.aquakoiaquatics.com/wei-pro-153-c.asp

but theyve sold out at the mo which is why there arent any on the page.

Type in 'wei-pro 3kw heater' into google.

£150.00









Just got back from job, and water hasnt dropped in temp by more than 2 degrees since this morning.

Although at the brush head it was significantly lower due to the fact that all the reel was unwound (big job to do today) and there was 3" of snow on the ground. At a guess Id say it was about 20 at the head.

eclipse

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 03:20:55 pm »
Good idea but surley it will be expensive to use the  3KW heater all the time
wouldnt it work out cheaper to run a L5 heater?

Would be interesting to see comparisons in running costs on this one

stevef78

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 03:32:15 pm »
sounds the bizzo,we were all set for work today,tank fine,hoses froze ;((

gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 04:51:08 pm »
Good idea but surley it will be expensive to use the  3KW heater all the time
wouldnt it work out cheaper to run a L5 heater?

Would be interesting to see comparisons in running costs on this one

Yes Im sure it would, but Ive heard a few stories on here about them being unreliable, flame going out etc, also theres the health and safety element of using gas in a vehicle and transporting gas.

This is Im sure more expensive than gas but its a case of swings and roundabouts.

gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 04:54:57 pm »











pingu

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 05:00:43 pm »

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Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2010, 05:05:19 pm »
Just a thought Matt, would heating the water directly and all night cause problems with algae etc, as when you have a fish tank and heat it you have to put in chemicals to stop algae.
Not sure whether you would get any problem, but might be wise to keep eye on tank.
Darren
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gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2010, 05:07:51 pm »
Just a thought Matt, would heating the water directly and all night cause problems with algae etc, as when you have a fish tank and heat it you have to put in chemicals to stop algae.
Not sure whether you would get any problem, but might be wise to keep eye on tank.
Darren

Algae in fish tanks isnt caused by heat its caused by light.

gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2010, 05:08:56 pm »
Is it something like this Matt? http://www.koi-fish.co.uk/acatalog/Wei_Pro_Titanium_Heaters.html

Cheers
Dave.

Thats the baby Dave, those prices appear to include the thermostat.

Careful which one you order, they arent all the 3KW; depends what size you want.


gewindows

Re: Insulated tank
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2010, 05:12:01 pm »
Thats external heater, you need to plumb that in outside your tank and then fit a pump to pump it through the heating element.