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G Griffin

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2010, 09:09:05 pm »
I don`t think it will work at -30, even mixed with a stick  :).  Don`t forget Barry keeps his water indoors too.
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barry80

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2010, 09:10:42 pm »
barry, am not shooting your idea down, just approching it with caution, wfp cleaners have tried it, and posted that it did not work well in posts before years ago, unless the screenwash has vastly improved since then, apparanly when the sun shines directly on the glass, it shows up
when the sun shines on my house windows where I live,  after Ive done this they look  fab... :) barry
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barry80

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2010, 09:15:56 pm »
I don`t think it will work at -30, even mixed with a stick  :).  Don`t forget Barry keeps his water indoors too.
dont try to knock it ..try it first like I said before I am only trying to help ...Barry
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G Griffin

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2010, 09:20:39 pm »
I`m not knocking it but most screenwash would freeze at the temperatures you mentioned.
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2010, 09:28:30 pm »
We only need water that wont freeze in the hose and jets to keep us wfpers working, a small dilution should protect as it cannot evaporate. Its a minimalist approach, well done Barry, ignore the Knockers, I at least have tried it.
Go Barry go. 8)

G Griffin

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2010, 09:36:10 pm »
I don`t think anyone has knocked him  :-\.  Just raised a few questions.
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Tim82

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2010, 11:22:52 am »
Thanks for sharing, barry, I'm gonna try this this mornin

formb

Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2010, 01:19:52 pm »
Hi,
Quick Question. Is this not going to ruin your resin/filters?#

Also I'm in Aberdeenshire we were down to -22 last week. Screen wash freezes believe me.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2010, 02:11:26 pm »
May well do, but use it afterwards in a backpack or trolley.
-22 ah well thats hell, theres a BUT  I just noticed on the label-
"All Seasons Ready Mixed Screenwash can also offer winter protection to -5C to help the washer bottle contents from freezing "

G Griffin

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2010, 02:36:45 pm »
Surely Barry`s biggest advantage is keeping the water in the boiler room; the screenwash may help prevent freezing whilst he`s out working but it`s not the main reason.
 
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Tim82

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2010, 02:53:00 pm »
 SUCCESS!!!!

 I tried  Barry's idea with my trolley system this morning to clean my own windows (it had been in my estate boot over a week and was all frozen up - pole, hose and all.) Didn't take long to defrost my system. The water on the window frothed up at first but then settled, and the droplets on the window looked just like normal from outside (and inside).

 My windows have mostly dried now and dried spotless!

 The first container of water was hot and the second cold - but I stress that the last lot of water was stone cold coming out so it wasn't just the hot water stopping it freezing as the hose was lying in snow as I was messing about.

 Might not stop it freezing at -22 but who'd be working in that anyway? -5 will be fine for me tomorrow.

 I think I'll put hot water in my container for the first container of the day tomorrow, then refill with cold.

 Got a few 2.5 litre concentrated screenwash bottles from Asda, Asda's own brand (as Tesco was sold out) for £1 each. Bargain!

Thanks again Barry!

Tim82

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2010, 02:57:20 pm »
PS. My resin isn't fresh either.

formb

Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2010, 03:01:51 pm »
I have quite a few systems. It used to cost me £500 a month in resin (too much), till I got a R.O machine now about £500 for 6 months. Dont fancy chancing it cause if I have to refresh all my resin now I'll be up poop creek.

Mike #1

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2010, 05:49:52 pm »
i currently use 50ml of isoprpanol per 25ltrs of water and can work in -4  i paid £18.00 with p &p of ebay that was last jan  when i bought it should last me all winter could possibly use more surely this is more cost effective than screenwash , i do miss out connys and porches though just to safe

barry80

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2010, 09:57:57 am »
SUCCESS!!!!

 I tried  Barry's idea with my trolley system this morning to clean my own windows (it had been in my estate boot over a week and was all frozen up - pole, hose and all.) Didn't take long to defrost my system. The water on the window frothed up at first but then settled, and the droplets on the window looked just like normal from outside (and inside).

 My windows have mostly dried now and dried spotless!  your very welcome...barry

 The first container of water was hot and the second cold - but I stress that the last lot of water was stone cold coming out so it wasn't just the hot water stopping it freezing as the hose was lying in snow as I was messing about.

 Might not stop it freezing at -22 but who'd be working in that anyway? -5 will be fine for me tomorrow.

 I think I'll put hot water in my container for the first container of the day tomorrow, then refill with cold.

 Got a few 2.5 litre concentrated screenwash bottles from Asda, Asda's own brand (as Tesco was sold out) for £1 each. Barg
Thanks again Barry!
        your very welcome tim....barry
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Tim82

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2010, 12:06:36 pm »
i currently use 50ml of isoprpanol per 25ltrs of water and can work in -4  i paid £18.00 with p &p of ebay that was last jan  when i bought it should last me all winter could possibly use more surely this is more cost effective than screenwash , i do miss out connys and porches though just to safe

That'd be good for a big tank, might try that one day

Prowindow,how many litres of isopropanol did you get for 18 quid please? And is only 50ml per 25litres of water DEFINITELY enough? If it's cheaper than 2.5 litres of concentrated screenwash for £1 then that would be cool.

barry80

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2010, 06:53:17 pm »
I have tried isopropanol its no good it freezes, I was useing it last christmas eve 2009 and it froze solid ice on a custies windows. So that's why I use screenwash instead.  :) barry
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pingu

Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2010, 06:57:37 pm »
Sorry Pro...50ml in 25litres...just not possible ....sorry that defeats physics..

Cheers
Dave.

Tim82

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Re: useing wfp in any cold conditions that works.
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2010, 07:37:30 pm »
I have tried isopropanol its no good it freezes, I was useing it last christmas eve 2009 and it froze solid ice on a custies windows. So that's why I use screenwash instead.  :) barry

Advice noted thanks Barry, you're still da man!

Pingu - Do you think he means 500ml rather than 50ml?


 

Tim82

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