[MSTAV]

what a waste of a day with only 3 houses done. i tried all day to work. windows freezing, hose freezing,pole freezing and not collapsing, this is not good. there must be a way around this, i cant afford to be off from work like this.

[elite mike]

time to get your slush funds out

i managed to get a good day in today, bit of a struggle this morning  :

worked 8.30 till 4 , had a few tips as well sweet

[Pole 2 Pole]

Slush funds? I'm gonna need a slush remortgage,lol. The key has to be heater in van overnight,followed by keeping the flow going through hoses and poles during the day. That aint the problem. My problem is the lawsuit that's bound to follow after some ole gal cracks her skull open slipping on the ice that "I" made. 

[jsm]

So i'm now going to go back out there and throw rock salt at the ground and spray de-icer over the pole to try and collapse it down.



Dennis

Classic --

 I managed to get out at 10am in wrexham  after putting all the gear back in van and filling tank with water - all done by 3 as it was getting colder , ill try again in morning - dont hold much luck for wednesday onwards , -5 forcast

[marcus hopkins]

Hot (warm) water is deffo no an option as believe it or not hot water freezes faster than cold water.

[Jeff Brimble]

The word "hot" is a misnoma you actually use luke warm, using "steaming" water will crack glass in these sub zero temps.

[JSMC]

snow here since 17th dec and prior to that some very very cold days. God we ge tbad weather all the time in scotland yet as soon of it hits down south it's all over the news which is a joke TBH.

[Nathanael Jones]

Hot (warm) water is deffo no an option as believe it or not hot water freezes faster than cold water.

Only under very specific conditions (In a tall narrow tube I'm told),.. it doesn't work that way for WFP.

I was cleaning at 8am and it was -6 at the time. My system didn't need defrosting, the pipes didn't freeze on the floor,.. I salted all the footpaths etc.

That said the water was freezing on the glass but the hot water melted it, I gave it a scrub, and let it freeze again. 2 hours later the ice had melted & the windows had come up perfect.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

The word "hot" is a misnoma you actually use luke warm, using "steaming" water will crack glass in these sub zero temps.

i agree jeff, i have not lost one day due to using luke warm water....its the ONLY way to do it in minus temps...i was working in minus 3 today....no breakages, no cracking and no pumps/hoses freezing.

[Craig 72]

The word "hot" is a misnoma you actually use luke warm, using "steaming" water will crack glass in these sub zero temps.

i agree jeff, i have not lost one day due to using luke warm water....its the ONLY way to do it in minus temps...i was working in minus 3 today....no breakages, no cracking and no pumps/hoses freezing.

Scrimmy,what about when the water actually hits the glass?That was my problem today,the water froze almost immediately on contact with the glass.Surely even if the water is warmed up it's not going to stay 'unfrozen' long enough to evaporate leaving clear results?

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

The word "hot" is a misnoma you actually use luke warm, using "steaming" water will crack glass in these sub zero temps.

i agree jeff, i have not lost one day due to using luke warm water....its the ONLY way to do it in minus temps...i was working in minus 3 today....no breakages, no cracking and no pumps/hoses freezing.

Scrimmy,what about when the water actually hits the glass?That was my problem today,the water froze almost immediately on contact with the glass.Surely even if the water is warmed up it's not going to stay 'unfrozen' long enough to evaporate leaving clear results?

the temp gauge was showing minus 3 in my van......and it felt every minus of that....but no breakages or freezing of the equip happened...but that due to me using LUKE WARM water....i know exactly what would have happened if i used HOT or COLD.....instant excess on the insurance for the broken windows

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

and just to add, i took EVERY piece of kit i was using today indoors last night as the temp got down to minus 9......i have done the same tonight, the temp up here is forecast to be down to minus 11.

it took me 10 minutes to unload the van....but i know that every piece of kit is now toasty and snug inside the hall cupboard.

[Craig 72]

Sorry,the point I was making is when the windows are rinsed the water freezes immediately leaving them covered in ice.Surely customers aren't happy with windows that are far icier than before they were cleaned?Using warm water leaves the windows clear in these conditions?

[martindrz400]

also got a full day in using warm water , made sure i kept the temp setting at just over min  but now weve got snow coming which makes i hard for me as i live top of steep hill

[Jeff Brimble]

In practice the heat from the building does help the water evaporate, even when frozen.

[tomo]

snap!!.

 freezing conditions this morning had to cancell a job i started,  ice straight away within minutes but now the interesting bit, went to buy some salt /grit everywhere is out of stock, if you throw down some fine gravel or stuff like that it causes a traction in the area you spilled the water, i was able at obtain a fine gravel and just put it on the paths and under windows where i splashed the water.

 now because we are not leaving 2 inches of water on the ground the chances are the gravel sits proud of the water when it freezes and prevents sliping i have tryed it at many custys homes and it worked a treat and they didnt mind the mess coz i told em i was doing it for saftey