[clive ware]

Hi,
I`ve been asked by the School whose carpets I clean to see if it would be worthwhile them buying a chewing gum remover themselves, to remove gum from the concrete playground and using their caretakkers to carry out the work or whether it would be beneficial to use myself. I know what machines are on the market but does anyone know how much companies who specialise in this sort of work actually charge?
I suppose an hourly rate would be around the £50 mark.
Cheers,

Clive

[Rob_Mac]

I have a twin operator and single operator systems. These aren't steam machines that are used for chewing gum removal. They are chewing gum removal set ups and cost a fortune.

Chewing gum removal is indeed hard work and you need to be looking at £400.00 - £600.00 per day.

I don't know how other people remove gum but professionals use the Miragreen systems or similar. Hiring is not something I know about but if you are charging £50.00 per hour a lot of that will be swallowed up in hire charges.

I cleared the front of a supermarket in Kent, at the beginning of december - approx 500 m2 - took 8 hours. that was constant and only medium density.

Without the proper equipment do one of two things 1 - dont bother, 2 - call me and take a percentage for doing nothing.

Rob

[Pristine Clean]

Hi Clive

I could be wrong but you can use a presure washer, with hot water. Get a hot box. I think they are around the £700 mark.

That way do it yourself and earn the money yourself. That way you reep the rewards.

And 10% of £500 is only £50 was it really worth it. If you have work for £500 thats good maney for a day.


Theres an article on this in the General Cleaning I think. I look to see if I can find it.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=85641.0

And if the labour is around the £400 mark you will soon be on a profit.

Or you could use a steam cleaner, it takes around 15 - 20 seconds to remove a peice of gum from tarmac with an osprey steam cleaner. You can also work in a crowded place with that. Uses less water.

Dave

[Shaun_Ashmore]

There's a guy in Chester called Zero Gum and he uses steam only and has the machine in a trailer.

http://www.zerogum.org.uk/the%20answer.htm

Shaun

[Rob_Mac]

Pristine

Generalising about things you state you could be wrong on is not really good advice. Have you ever cleared gum from an external surface.

10% would that be the percentage I would offer?. Way off boy!!

I do the things I do at the level I do because I do them with no complaints and I keep getting recommended works!!

Now for someone who has never done any chewing gum removal - Clive, it may have been a good idea to see how someone who is already set up to take care of this work, does actually do it before any substantial investment.

I would never tell anyone who wants to clean a carpet (and had never cleaned one before) to go and hire a truckmount (if they could hire one). This is a specialist service and requires experience - similarly if Clive does take your advice he is probably going to be still cleaning the chewing gum about four days after he should have been finished.

Now I have to drive to Birkenhead to do some pressure washing, with my diesel pressure washers and brand new hotbox, I will see if I can find a piece of chewing gum and I will give you the facts as to how long this will take using the lot of hot water method.

I would hope Clive can see through waffle.

Rob

[Pristine Clean]

I have done chewing gum removal with an osprey but not presure washing. We have done external surfaces in school play grounds and in some super market locations. Its is not my area of expertise with regards to a jet wash but we do use an Osprey.

Also the "I could be wrong" statement ...unfortunatley is a one of my sayings and is not meant to be taken the way you have taken it. In future I will make my post more confident and more assertive.

And I would like to change the above post to read as follows... Clive you 100% could and can use a jet wash but you need heat and some chemical depending on the surface.

Jet washing is not something I do much of with gum removal. But I knew it could be done but only have a general idea with a jet wash as of the heat ranges and chemicals etc. But I did see the thread in the general cleaning section.

I dont think it is a subject that you need a degree in to do well at providing you have the correct equipment.

You seem to have taken it as a personal attack which it was not meant to be.

Just with people saying you have a choice to leave it alone or get me to do it and take a percentage just winds me up. You earn the big money. And rightly so as you are doing the work.

But if he is to sub it all out he wont earn much. Also he could expand his business. And get even more work if he had the equipment. Also Ospreys steam cleaners can be hired. So it an avenue he could try first. If he does not try he wont get experience to become a professional.

Also in Genertal Cleaning section on chewinggum removal you are hardly an expert with a hot box and jet wash are you? You only picked the hotbox up up on the 31st.

What I would also like to add here is this forum in my opinion is to help others progress with their business so they can do the cleaning themselves and take out the middleman and earn the money themselves.

You have now in 2 post this one being the 2nd either want subbing as in you do it, the other was a chemical you would not give out to a cleaner or other cleaners.

But if you get money for it in someway best of luck to you M clean.

For Clive, http://www.miragreen.ie/range_miraclean.html here you can see the systems for miragreen in use.

Dave

 

[colin thomas]

wallpaper remover with a 'cup' over the end, hold over the gum for a few seconds and then scrape off, easy, but you do have to wipe the residue with a solvent to remove all traces and then you want to rinse THAT so that it doesn't re-soil quickly. i' ve done this in pubs where there are huge amounts of gum and if you work in a team of 2 it is quick and easy but you have to combine it with cleaning the carpet,

colin

[jon barnes]

clive
why dont u phone alan williams [02392 815890] he used to hire a machine to do the  areas outside for the foremention school
Terry

[colin thomas]

ooops! sorry just realised we are talking outside areas,

apologies,

colin     :

[clive ware]

Thanks for all your replies. I`ll let you know if they want me to go ahead Rob.
Hi Jon. I have actually seen Alan removing the chewing gum from the playground but wouldn`t have thought he was charging very much for it!!
Cheers,

Clive

[trevor perry]

Pristine

Generalising about things you state you could be wrong on is not really good advice. Have you ever cleared gum from an external surface.

10% would that be the percentage I would offer?. Way off boy!!

I do the things I do at the level I do because I do them with no complaints and I keep getting recommended works!!

Now for someone who has never done any chewing gum removal - Clive, it may have been a good idea to see how someone who is already set up to take care of this work, does actually do it before any substantial investment.

I would never tell anyone who wants to clean a carpet (and had never cleaned one before) to go and hire a truckmount (if they could hire one). This is a specialist service and requires experience - similarly if Clive does take your advice he is probably going to be still cleaning the chewing gum about four days after he should have been finished.

Now I have to drive to Birkenhead to do some pressure washing, with my diesel pressure washers and brand new hotbox, I will see if I can find a piece of chewing gum and I will give you the facts as to how long this will take using the lot of hot water method.

I would hope Clive can see through waffle.

Rob

 i find using hot pressure washer faster than steam but it is no good if it  a high pedestrian area as it is more messy, out of the two methods i have found hot water pressure washing twice as fast as steam

[james roffey]

I di a very large Salvation Army hall which had lots of gum on the carpet i did a bit of research and came across "riditgum" which i found was easy to use got gum up in seconds without having to use wand.