[Rcs]

hi were recently started a new wc business using traditional methods
all our work is currently at ground  level ie bungelows and 2 storey work
including consevatories which we use ladders for
some windows were are having trouble reaching also have has a few inquiries from a few blocks of 3 storey flats and houses in really tight areas ie hard to reach

we need a water fed pole system of some sort
thinking  backback
have not really got the cash to spend on a van mounted set up at the moment or even a trolley

do you think a backpack will do the trick


where can we get a full set up inc pole hoses backpack etc 
also the cheapest place to buy the necessary equipment to produce a small amount of pure water

thanks

[bad trippy]

Are you in hard or soft water area?

[JRDEasiReach]

where you live?

[Rcs]

west sussex hard
i see theres a merlin for sale not far from me but will it be suitable
the pressure aint great round here

[bad trippy]

Unless the water pressure is really poor, and by that i mean flowing water is almost non exsitent then the marlin should cater for your needs at this time until you can afford more better kit

[GWCS]

west sussex hard
i see theres a merlin for sale not far from me but will it be suitable
the pressure aint great round here

merlins need at least 60psi (dependant on temperature - check their website for full spec) - if you dont have that you will need a heavy duty booster pump. approx £150-200

otherwise your better off wiith a RO man type 200/300 gpd ro system.

[jonnyald]

i would just buy a couple of different trad poles and a fishing pole , plus a couple of different wagtails .if you look on youtube MyWagga ,he shows you how to get at  the hard to get windows and still stay trad

 i only do houses ,but a few are 3 storey and ive had no problem doing these with a fishing pole+wagtail .

[Murdie window cleaning]

Going wfp looks a costly exercise, I'm looking at possibly getting a trolley set up but to get set up from scratch looks like I would need to spend the thick end of 1k, and I need to be confident that it will make me money in the long run.

I was thinking I'd be able to take on higher windows, awkward to reach windows ect.

[colley614]

Keep your eye out on the forums and ebay for a cheap second hand van with system fitted. You can get some bargains. Trust me!

[dazmond]

ive use trad poles for years on awkward/dangerous off a ladder windows.no problems.takes a bit of getting use to.im quite fast now!WFP is not the only option.i just pop my normal T MOP on a pole,soap up then put my swivelock squeegy on then detail with a dry microfibre in a fixiclamp.simple and effective!and no trailing hoses!!

[chopsie]

dazmond,I hink your talking yourself out of getting a WFP set up with every post    seriously,what is your reason for considering WFP,as you seem to be doing v.well trad

[Lee Pryor]

rcs where abouts in west sussex are you?

[Rcs]

littlehampton

[dazmond]

i think what it is chopsie is that ive never tried it and all these guys on here cant be wrong!im thinking a wfp would be a lot quicker for some of the bigger houses ive got on my books esp georgian/leaded.also   u can clean the frames everytime and i bet its quicker than using trad poles.extras like conny roofs,fascias,gutters also easier and safer.still on the fence though!!again!! : :

[Lee Pryor]

never mind i had an idear but your not close enough to me to make it work. anyway, best advice is cary on as you are, save up, get a proper van mount system, ive always believed that doing things by halves is just a waste of good money, when your round is full and you are out every day, it will be easy to pay for the right kit. a full van mount can be bought for as little as £1000

[mark dew]

rcs the window cleaning warehouse backpack will be fine.
Any ro that produces 100 gallons per day or more with a booster pump, a rain water butt, water containers, your backpack + plus pole and you are away.  
The pole would be your most expensive single item. A 25ft pole would cover most domestic work.

[chopsie]

I hear what your saying dazmond,I have only just started out and have just bought a van today and been buying poles and RO etc for last few weeks,I have already got a backpack which is very good,I am loads quicker using that than trad,plus I don't want to use ladders and end up regretting it!! I will still do some trad I think as I would love to be really good and quick at it,I bet you and a lot of others on here could easily beat a lot of WFpolers.

[leapstallbuildings]

west sussex hard
i see theres a merlin for sale not far from me but will it be suitable
the pressure aint great round here

merlins need at least 60psi (dependant on temperature - check their website for full spec) - if you dont have that you will need a heavy duty booster pump. approx £150-200

otherwise your better off wiith a RO man type 200/300 gpd ro system.

I do get by on 32 - 40 PSI with my Merlin.  Obviously it doesn't run at optimum but I find it sufficient for a sole trader (produces around 30+ litres an hour most of the time).  Not the cleanest of ROs.  Even with fairly new membranes TDS can be above 010 but a bit of resin soon cures that.
It's not ideal but is certainly workable - even without a booster pump.

[MSTAV]

west sussex hard
i see theres a merlin for sale not far from me but will it be suitable
the pressure aint great round here

merlins need at least 60psi (dependant on temperature - check their website for full spec) - if you dont have that you will need a heavy duty booster pump. approx £150-200

otherwise your better off wiith a RO man type 200/300 gpd ro system.

I do get by on 32 - 40 PSI with my Merlin.  Obviously it doesn't run at optimum but I find it sufficient for a sole trader (produces around 30+ litres an hour most of the time).  Not the cleanest of ROs.  Even with fairly new membranes TDS can be above 010 but a bit of resin soon cures that.
It's not ideal but is certainly workable - even without a booster pump.

yea same here mines at just under 40 psi.tds is always around 40 before resin.still i get a good 6 months out a sack so not too bad

[mark dew]

west sussex hard
i see theres a merlin for sale not far from me but will it be suitable
the pressure aint great round here

merlins need at least 60psi (dependant on temperature - check their website for full spec) - if you dont have that you will need a heavy duty booster pump. approx £150-200
otherwise your better off wiith a RO man type 200/300 gpd ro system.

I do get by on 32 - 40 PSI with my Merlin.  Obviously it doesn't run at optimum but I find it sufficient for a sole trader (produces around 30+ litres an hour most of the time).  Not the cleanest of ROs.  Even with fairly new membranes TDS can be above 010 but a bit of resin soon cures that.
It's not ideal but is certainly workable - even without a booster pump.

yea same here mines at just under 40 psi.tds is always around 40 before resin.still i get a good 6 months out a sack so not too bad

I've had a 300gpd ro with booster pump for 3 1/2 years. tds is 480. I have replaced the filters once. And am still on the same 25 litre sack of resin.
The booster pump is the key to how efficient this has been.
I am not on a water meter either so i flush very well and often.