[Moderator David@stives]

Matt

I didnt start an arguement,, I simply answered the question

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Maybe OCS know how to price correctly instead of just  plucking a figure out of the air, maybe they instilled confidence by being very professional.

p.s

OCS are members of the FWC, they also have a seat on the board, maybe the guild could tempt a big hitter to give them more clout ?

Dave through my experience with the larger companies, I know some of them enter extremely low quotes, just to get the job, as they have staff to pay, which are only on minimum wage.

I have lost out to larger companies in the past when they have quoted 50% less!


Matt

[Gleaming windows]

which thread was that Matt ?

Looks like its disappeared.

It was a couple of weeks ago.

[Moderator David@stives]

MB

I lost out to OCS once even though they were 50% dearer, the company thought they would get a more professional service, I ended up getting the job back 12 months later though.

[jonnyald]

I am small fry.

Made a decent little business, but definately not a big hitter.

 who dyou know whose a big hitter ,  is there many of these ? 

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

I am small fry.

Made a decent little business, but definately not a big hitter.

 who dyou know whose a big hitter ,  is there many of these ? 

I can hit my tee shot over 280yds 

[Moderator David@stives]

I would say a big hitter would be on par with, Allclean or Grieg Avenue,

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

grieg avinou has most of the big jobs up here....dunno if he has managed to break england yet though

[stephen s]

I am small fry.

Made a decent little business, but definately not a big hitter.

 who dyou know whose a big hitter ,  is there many of these ? 

I can hit my tee shot over 280yds 












Ive hit mine over 320 yards    if only I could hit it staright 

[Frankybadboy]

I am small fry.

Made a decent little business, but definately not a big hitter.

 who dyou know whose a big hitter ,  is there many of these ? 

I can hit my tee shot over 280yds 












Ive hit mine over 320 yards    if only I could hit it staright 

i always said you were bent steve

[Steve_c]

Why would you want to join the FWC?  Most wfp guys must remember Newsnight when new Heath & Safety Legislation came in to effect, Newsnight ran a news item on wfp and trad, all to do with Health & Safety, and didn't the Chairman rubbish wfp...... as he said it wouldn't remove impacted bird matter?  I am happy with my British Window Cleaning Academy membership as I now know this has a bigger membership than the FWC so therefore when it comes down to negitating with authorities over new H&S Legislation and Government Bodies they will have the bigger say.

[matt]

Dave, the vast majority of guys here won't have clients that know anything about the FWC.  I guess the biggest contract I've ever had was a Hilton Hotel and they did make us jump through a few hoops and it was help from this forum that sorted out the risk and method statement and safety policy I needed, along with a few other ones.  I wasn't asked if I was a member of a trade association.

I've also quoted for a massive posh golf course and hotel (restaraunts/bars/swimming pool/gym) and they didn't want to know either.  OCS won that contract purely on price (I clean the windows of someone who works there who knows).  They were nearly 50% cheaper than any other quote.

For the majority of us window cleaners, if we want a logo (which all the FWC would be for me), I'd just spend the £20 and go for the Guild.

is that the manor tosh ? ? ? ?

[Bryan_Dolby]

In the interest of saninity

Why dont you all join the trade association what is best for your buisness

The FWC currently acts on behalf of all window cleaners and as the qualified committee members to give the correct advice

The same people on here keep giving the FWC some crap(you would have to wonder why?)guild members

Why dont we learn from this and keep opinions to ones self

The FWC as never made a comment about the guild so why dont the guild just leave things alone

Bryan

[Moderator David@stives]

Bryan

I was looking forward to you getting the Glyn treatment, can't wait for the video.

I will tell them you are here.

[Bryan_Dolby]

Dave

If they want to do that it will be up to them

Were as the post gone about Glyn

Bryan

[Nathanael Jones]

Why would you want to join the FWC?  Most wfp guys must remember Newsnight when new Heath & Safety Legislation came in to effect, Newsnight ran a news item on wfp and trad, all to do with Health & Safety, and didn't the Chairman rubbish wfp...... as he said it wouldn't remove impacted bird matter?  

Is this the video?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4230000/newsid_4231900/4231920.stm?bw=nb&mp=wm&news=1&bbcws=1#

Brian,.. personally I think the FWC is a great organisation,.. I don't want to rubbish it at all. ANY association that aims to make our lives safer, easier & more professional cannot be a bad thing.

[Bryan_Dolby]

Nat

You said
Brian,.. personally I think the FWC is a great organisation,.. I don't want to rubbish it at all. ANY association that aims to make our lives safer, easier & more professional cannot be a bad thing.

You have just proved the point by putting the news night link on as a post
What reason would you have to put the link on here?

I have said nothing about climbing out of cherry pickers,ladders are banned and only going to meetings in Ireland



Bryan

[Nathanael Jones]

You have just proved the point by putting the news night link on as a post
What reason would you have to put the link on here?

Does the FWC have a different viewpoint now?

[Moderator David@stives]

I was on that video, as was Ian Lancaster =, but he was on there twice once in colour and once in Black and White

[Tosh]

I still think it boils down to how much do you want to pay for a logo!