[bobplum]

ive been trying both today,scrim and microfibre definately scrim works better
bob

[Ian Lancaster]

ive been trying both today,scrim and microfibre definately scrim works better
bob

But do you use it damp or dry?

[dazmond]

i remember irish linen.a hardware store near me sold it in yards off a roll.took a while to break in but then it would last for ages!that was in the early 90s when i just scrimmed windows til about 1997!no squeegy or Tmop!modern day scrim ok for detailing on a damp day but prefer microfibres on leaded and georgian for buffing.doesnt leave fibres like scrim.

regards dazmond

[dazmond]

ian lancaster i use scrim dry for detailing or slightly damp.sometimes damp for little openers and georgian then buff with dry microfibre

[Ian Lancaster]

Exactly.  But good old (damp) scrim would do your little openers with one pass and leave it clean.

[bobplum]

ive been trying both today,scrim and microfibre definately scrim works better
bob

But do you use it damp or dry?

i vary it a little
when ive washed the window i some times run a microfibre cloth around the edge of the pane then blade it and there is very little left to scrimm this helps the scrimm last longer
otherwise it as to be dry for me hate it when its wet/damp
bob

[martinsadie]

ive been trying both today,scrim and microfibre definately scrim works better
bob

But do you use it damp or dry?

i vary it a little
when ive washed the window i some times run a microfibre cloth around the edge of the pane then blade it and there is very little left to scrimm this helps the scrimm last longer
otherwise it as to be dry for me hate it when its wet/damp
bob

scrim last longer 
use 4 a day ,wash every day and probley dont have to bin 2 a year

[ccmids]

i  do the sills with scrim, microfiber on the glass, well i did back in the days before wfp.

[Pureandclean]

When I started I didn't know about scrim, so used checkered tea towels, had to boil them up similar to scrim and rough them up a bit, but they worked fine. I think we used to pay about 45p for a pack of 5 and that would last us all year.

We use microfibres as damp cloths for cleaning off snail trails etc. I find that the microfibre cloths used to irritate my hands when they were dry. So I would prefer the tea towels over the microfibres if I was still trad.

[Ian_Giles]

I agree with Ian and Dean, the modern scrim doesn't get close to the stuff you could get 20 or 30 years ago, and you could get different thickness scrim too, took some breaking in mind!

I converted to flat weave microfibre a few ago now...way, way better in every respect than modern scrim, and if you can't detail with it then you are doing something wrong!

It can be used damp too.

I make up my own cleaning compound using pure water and isopropanol in a sprayer and it works incredibly well in areas where it is a preferred method to either WFP or a squeegee.

How important is scrim?............

It isn't, not any more....

Ian

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

I have approximately 25 scrims, they took quite a bit to "break-in".
Yes I can use them damp, I usually prefer to use them slightly damp as I find I get a better result.




Matt

[dai]

Ian Lancaster took me back there. When I first cleaned windows for a living in 1958 I had never seen a squeegee, it was all done with a chamois mop and damp scrim. The scrim had to be washed after about 4 houses, and in clean water too, we had segs on our hands from ringing them out.
The crack when you flicked them was like a whip, it frayed the corners of the scrim pretty quickly too.
I was the fly killing champion, if a fly or wasp landed near by, I could atomise it with one deft flick.
You had to use the old linen scrims damp, as soon as they became dry,they would start leaving fluff on the glass, the new ones did anyway.
The difference I have noticed with modern scrim is that well used  scrim will start fluffing too. The old stuff never did this, in fact they seemed to get better with use, and a holey scrim was quite prized.
We use to go over the glass with the mop, and then scrim it right away. This left a slight film of water on the glass, but only for a second and  it always dried perfectly.
If the glass wasn't too dirty, you could get away with using a damp scrim only. It made the job a lot quicker even if you did have to wash it more often.

I was thinking  about this the other day when Terry was on about his magic solution, if he has found micro fiber as good as the old scrim, the clean water would be the only magic solution you would ever need.

[weetot]

When I started I didn't know about scrim, so used checkered tea towels, had to boil them up similar to scrim and rough them up a bit, but they worked fine. I think we used to pay about 45p for a pack of 5 and that would last us all year.

We use microfibres as damp cloths for cleaning off snail trails etc. I find that the microfibre cloths used to irritate my hands when they were dry. So I would prefer the tea towels over the microfibres if I was still trad.

Checkered tea towels, been cleaning windees since 1983 and never thought about that, @45p what a bargain, I,m paying up to £5 per yard of scrim.   

[Ian Lancaster]

Ian Lancaster took me back there. When I first cleaned windows for a living in 1958 I had never seen a squeegee, it was all done with a chamois mop and damp scrim. The scrim had to be washed after about 4 houses, and in clean water too, we had segs on our hands from ringing them out.
The crack when you flicked them was like a whip, it frayed the corners of the scrim pretty quickly too.
I was the fly killing champion, if a fly or wasp landed near by, I could atomise it with one deft flick.
You had to use the old linen scrims damp, as soon as they became dry,they would start leaving fluff on the glass, the new ones did anyway.
The difference I have noticed with modern scrim is that well used  scrim will start fluffing too. The old stuff never did this, in fact they seemed to get better with use, and a holey scrim was quite prized.
We use to go over the glass with the mop, and then scrim it right away. This left a slight film of water on the glass, but only for a second and  it always dried perfectly.
If the glass wasn't too dirty, you could get away with using a damp scrim only. It made the job a lot quicker even if you did have to wash it more often.

I was thinking  about this the other day when Terry was on about his magic solution, if he has found micro fiber as good as the old scrim, the clean water would be the only magic solution you would ever need.

Blimey

I thought I'd been around since the dark ages, but I only started in about 1968

[dai]

I did a couple of spells working for a guy, one about 6 months the other about four.
I was then away from the job untill 1994, so one hell of a break.

[martinsadie]

I did a couple of spells working for a guy, one about 6 months the other about four.
I was then away from the job untill 1994, so one hell of a break.

you just shattered your own legend there Dai,thought you did it the hard way for years not just 10 months 

[martinsadie]

if this forum had been going then theyd all be calling you beer money and dole boy