[krave]

Hey guys what of the above is recommended for my Wfp setup. Obviously they are all needed, but what sort, psi, brands, cheap places? Is gardiners my best bet?

And the hose would that connect straight to the bottom or what ever pole I choose??

Just about to order my stuff (Gaps water are not open today it seems  )

Thanks in advance (Again)

[daz1977]

6 or 8 mm hose, should connect,  (wintecs do a cheap hose for about 30 odd quid, 100m in yellow, its there own )

a metal reel, u can buy plactic but this breaks

mim of 60 psi pump, but the 100 is usually £10 more

a leisure battery with i think 72 amp,

[mark dew]

More expensive but a flojet is the better pump to get.
Very few problems on here over the years with flojet pumps.

You don't have a pump controller listed, so an on/off valve between the water tank and the pump is needed to regulate the flow.

[krave]

Ok Il go with flojet if thats better than shurflo < if it was called that!
Do i need a flo controller, how will this work, and how do I stop water pumping in between windows...?

thanks.

EDIT, just seen the flojets arte like £165, Dont really think I can go with that, Will start breaking the budget!

Will a 100psi sureflo or watever be good enough?

[Frankybadboy]

nothing wrong with a shurflo pump.

just once in a while the pressure switch will go.cost £1.79 from maplin to replace.

[krave]

Ok sweet. How do I go about stopping the water flo whilst using the pole and inn between windows? Is a flo controller needed??

Im excited, just getting the shopping list now to order some and call gaps on monday 

[daz1977]

i dont use a flow control, i just turn off my pole at the switch, at end of hose, for moving from front to back, if i am moving a big distance, i disconnect the battery and let the water in pump run off,  try a pump with flow on demand if you can

[Window Washers]

Ok Il go with flojet if thats better than shurflo < if it was called that!
Do i need a flo controller, how will this work, and how do I stop water pumping in between windows...?

thanks.

EDIT, just seen the flojets arte like £165, Dont really think I can go with that, Will start breaking the budget!

Will a 100psi sureflo or watever be good enough?

you can get a surflow and a controller for around that price.


I use these in both my vans and the next van shortly will be having them again, 2 of each 

[krave]

Without sounding silly here, can some one tell me the set up from the tank?

Tank>>pump>>hose>>pole.

Where in here would a controller go? And you say switch for the water, is this on the pole or do you put it between the hose and pole?

Sorry for the ?s that probably seem so obvious, but just getting to grips and learning! + Dont want everything other than a £5 switch lol.

[Window Washers]

Without sounding silly here, can some one tell me the set up from the tank?

Tank>>pump>>hose>>pole.

Where in here would a controller go? And you say switch for the water, is this on the pole or do you put it between the hose and pole?

Sorry for the ?s that probably seem so obvious, but just getting to grips and learning! + Dont want everything other than a £5 switch lol.

OK WATWER IS IN TAKE IT GOES TO THE PUMP, THE PUMP IS CONTROLLED BY THE CONTROLLER (IT IS NOT INLINE (sry for caps) with the pump it just controls the flow of the pump, less water/more water quicker.slower.
so tank pump, hose i WOULD SAY TAP THEN POLE, CONTROL AND CLOSE OF WATER WHERE YOU WORK WILL SAVE A LOAD OF WATER, WELCOME TO CALL ME TOMORROW IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS k

my pc keyboard is nacked again ARRRRRH, could be the expanding foam I have all over my hands touching thbuttons they should'nt.

[mark dew]

To control the flow you want an on/off valve between the tank and the pump. It has to be before the pump rather than after, because it will put too much constant pressure on the pressure switch within the pump. Which will make it burn out.
This option is if you don't get an electronic pump controller. Which you don't need.

something like this.
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=10278151&fh_view_size=150&fh_start_index=20&fh_eds=%3f&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB%2fcategories%3c%7b9372099%7d&fh_search=hose&fh_refview=search&ts=1256146844427&isSearch=false

[mark dew]

After the pump you want something like this if you want to turn on and off the flow at the pole.
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/100mhoseandreel.html

I didn't get on with the pole flow valves. But i never really put too much effort into solving the problem of taps breaking off and leaks along the hose when i did turn it off.
Although these things are easily sorted, I ended just throwing water at it and moving quickly between windows.

[Window Washers]

To control the flow you want an on/off valve between the tank and the pump. It has to be before the pump rather than after, because it will put too much constant pressure on the pressure switch within the pump. Which will make it burn out.
This option is if you don't get an electronic pump controller. Which you don't need.

something like this.
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=10278151&fh_view_size=150&fh_start_index=20&fh_eds=%3f&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB%2fcategories%3c%7b9372099%7d&fh_search=hose&fh_refview=search&ts=1256146844427&isSearch=false

only problem with this way is, you have no control if you need more water you cant, no more water costs time and over a few weeks of lost time it would pay to have a flo
o control and a tap, imho

[mark dew]

I don't know where it would be any different to an electronic controller. You would still have it set for the job. Just like the dial on a varistream.
One of those remote control gizmos might be better, but i'm not convinced by them yet.
The reason for the flow valve between the pump and tank is that the pump will blast water out without being restricted. No different to a varistream.
My flojet used to pump 7.1 litres per minute i think it was. With the plastic valve reducing it before the pump i reduced to and worked with a flow rate of around 1 1/2 litres per minute.
When i needed more water i just opened the tap a little more.

[Window Washers]

I don't know where it would be any different to an electronic controller. You would still have it set for the job. Just like the dial on a varistream.
One of those remote control gizmos might be better, but i'm not convinced by them yet.
The reason for the flow valve between the pump and tank is that the pump will blast water out without being restricted. No different to a varistream.
My flojet used to pump 7.1 litres per minute i think it was. With the plastic valve reducing it before the pump i reduced to and worked with a flow rate of around 1 1/2 litres per minute.
When i needed more water i just opened the tap a little more.

my control will cut the pump out when not needed without will not ( bad for pump) wastes water if no tap ) I can leave all connected in van and go to next job, and walk, without you can but you seriously screwing pump as it keeps running, correct me if I am wrong>>

[mark dew]

Yes you are right ian. That is what happened eventually with my flojet after a couple of years. But i was ignorant of what to do and how to set it up.
The pressure switch on a pump that is set up properly will do exactly the same as an electronic flow controller.
Where i went wrong was not adjusting the pressure switch to shut off straight away, when the flow is cut. I put too much pressure on mine for too long.
I use a varistraem and shurflo (courtesy of freedom trolley i have) now, but i will go back to the previous method sometime as i found it a superior flow rate, in that it was constant all of the time.
I find the varistream takes too long sometimes when i raise the pole rapidly. I'm using mark1 varistream by the way. The new one might be completely reliable all of the time. But the mark 1 isn't. It's good enough though.

[Window Washers]

Yes you are right ian. That is what happened eventually with my flojet after a couple of years. But i was ignorant of what to do and how to set it up.
The pressure switch on a pump that is set up properly will do exactly the same as an electronic flow controller.
Where i went wrong was not adjusting the pressure switch to shut off straight away, when the flow is cut. I put too much pressure on mine for too long.
I use a varistraem and shurflo (courtesy of freedom trolley i have) now, but i will go back to the previous method sometime as i found it a superior flow rate, in that it was constant all of the time.
I find the varistream takes too long sometimes when i raise the pole rapidly. I'm using mark1 varistream by the way. The new one might be completely reliable all of the time. But the mark 1 isn't. It's good enough though.

I have not used varistream due to poor feedback over 18 months before I went wfp , I use ecoflow's , I have only had one die on me, and that is because (IMO) the tank that wydale supply have very bad formed lids that are not water tight and the water kept hitting this certain control daily.

I am not knocking the way you work at all, just that a new starter should be informed what is new out the that works.

I have never had a problem with getting up fast and always get the same flow (I turn tap off on hip) saves water and flow there all the time, and when I do not turn off water the flow is the same, I control from tap on hop I did try changing it, but what a ball ache. prefer whats worked well at start and will keep on till someone proves to me I am worng, it cost me £100 + changing connectors over only to charge back the next week as it was not a good way imo to work.


Ian

[mark dew]

Yes it's horses for courses.
An electronic flow controller might be newer and works but isn't needed. Whatever is achievavble with a flow controller is just as achievable without. I don't see any point of getting something that works, when a simpler and just as effective option is there already.
But i can understand the attraction of having something a bit more technical.

[Window Washers]

Yes it's horses for courses.
An electronic flow controller might be newer and works but isn't needed. Whatever is achievavble with a flow controller is just as achievable without. I don't see any point of getting something that works, when a simpler and just as effective option is there already.
But i can understand the attraction of having something a bit more technical.

Mark can you explain what you have from tank inside to pole brush ?
everything is double as only have 2 man sytemes on vans
I have tank,tap,filter on  pumps with controllers above nothing to do with line of water , ports, hose  hoses connections, hip tap, pole connection, brush head water, spotless windows (dale eat your heart out:) )

Ian

[mark dew]

Tank > on/off flow control >freedom trolley > hosereel of microbore > pole.
The inline flow control is redundant cos trolley has varistream.