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Ricky M

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2009, 08:06:43 am »
Richy , No challenge them but just be carefull if your going nick there staff
I most of miss read your 1st post and I thought you were staff hunting
just be care full with these boys

Best Ricky
www.ability1975.co.uk
                          www.carpetcleaninguttoxeter.co.uk  
              NCCA !? but why have non of my clients herd of them ??

Davo

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2010, 06:48:42 am »
Hi richy, hope the info i sent you a while back came in handy. Good luck, and heed the advice of not taking their people, THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY, to put it mildly.

Good quality leads are king, pay good money to the right people, nothing worse for a sales team than following up weak, unqualified leads. You will be much better off following up 5 good qualified leads than 30 wishy washy ones. Build in extra margins to reward a professional canvassing team.

Good luck.

Mark

JandS

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2010, 07:33:16 pm »
why when someone has an idea, people come back with negatives?

Good on you for starting it, i thought about this earlier in the year and still am, can you let us know where the course was? ta

Not negative just pointing out the pitfalls.
They did a bungalow up the road last week.
Then spent all day Saturday relaying most of the roof at the rear.
No scaffold up they were walking the roof.
That in itself can damage the roof.
You compromise one part of the roof and it's going to cost you dear.
Especially if it affects the house next door as well.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Rob_Mac

Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2010, 08:55:19 pm »
I have cleaned several roofs that would make a large detached property look like inconsequential (no disrespect to large detached homes or their owners) 1/2 day jobs.

The roofs I clean are on live supermarkets and the consequences of getting it wrong on them will cost me all of my 10 million liability.

They are not complicatedand if checked properly before commencement of works, make sure there is a membrane underneath the roof tiles and don't walk on the tiles then there is no problems. There will always be the unexpected and this is the same in any form of cleaning.

It does make me laugh when people presume you don't know what you are talking about because they have seen a bunch of muppets in the same line of work.

If I see or hear of a bad carpet clean I don't automatically presume jands are morons. have you ever heard of a roof void being filled with water. Fetch me my goggles they may flood the whole country ;D

Judge Richy on the job he is setting out to do because he does sound like he has got the training and is going about it the right way.

Good luck Richy.

Rob ;D

richywilts

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 03:09:08 am »
cheers rob

could do with meeting up again in near future rob im looking at rigging me 2nd  van out properly for pressure washing and waterfed pole and seeing the professional way you have rigged your vans out i think ya advice would be appreciated as i want to start targettin larger commercial jobs for pressure washing and window cleaning.

me number is 07894821844

cheers richy
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

cleaner-exteriors

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2010, 09:40:40 pm »
i think some of the points jands made are fair points. I clean roofs but am very selective as to what i will clean, i spent 7 years as a roofer and can state for a fact that just because a roof looks sound, apperances are deceptive.
Slated roofs i would never touch as they are to weak, if broken an absoloute pain to remove the half of slate still attached to the roof batten.
Both clay and concrete i will clean but dependent on tile age bearing in mind a roof is usally only garuenteed for 25 years, you need to expect breakages and be careful of the ridgeline and verges for weak cement.
Also another area to be careful of is lead flashings around chimmneys etc as the tiles overlap the lead you can not see if the lead has splits in it under the tiles.
Rob certain tiles can be walked on like big concrete stonewolds if you know where  abouts the batten is under the tile, and on a low picth is pretty safe as long as you use common sense.
i would imagine that the roofs on the supermarkets you clean are in fairly good nick in the first place compared to most domestics.
matt

Rob_Mac

Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2010, 10:25:57 pm »
As standard policy, whether on a supermarket or residential dwelling I have found ways to clean any roof without clambering on it in any way!!! As stated not all companies operate the same way.

Again I would never knock anyone who wants to walk on a roof but I have enough experience to not need to clean them in that manner.

Rob ;D

mark.laycock1@ntlw

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2010, 07:27:50 am »
the guys who do my roof cleaning use a cherry picker .been up on a roof myself i feel safe.
mark

cleaner-exteriors

  • Posts: 128
Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2010, 10:14:15 pm »
As standard policy, whether on a supermarket or residential dwelling I have found ways to clean any roof without clambering on it in any way!!! As stated not all companies operate the same way.

Again I would never knock anyone who wants to walk on a roof but I have enough experience to not need to clean them in that manner.

Rob ;D
your quite right there is no need need to walk on a roof, i was just stating it is possible on certain roofs to do so without causing damage, personally a scaffold or cherry picker are the only safe ways to go about any roof cleaning as minimising the risks of accidents come before any job.

JandS

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2010, 07:03:40 pm »
M - CLEAN UK

Once again wasn't doubting the man's work or set up.
Just the fact that he probably hasn't cleaned a roof before.
So thought I would point out some pitfalls to watch out
for.
I have a father and a brother who are both builders so
I have a little insight into what can go wrong, and if it
goes wrong and you damage the integrity of the roof
it will be costly.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

JandS

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2010, 07:07:40 pm »
The firm I saw doing it round here were graystilemaster.
From their website they look a slick outfit but all 3 guys were walking the roof
with no roof ladders or harness.
In fairness it was a bungalow with a very shallow roof and it was a dry sunny
day.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

stalwart

  • Posts: 344
Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2010, 06:33:20 pm »
Richy,what if your asked to clean and coat a asbestos slate roof,may i ask how would you go about that............................................... from past exp i know what i would do :-X
Been there,seen it,done it,just cant remember when

richywilts

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2010, 10:44:16 pm »
i wouldnt go near it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! iv done asbestos training in my last job as a upvc fascia fitter and that was one of the reasons i gave it up being a smoker and working with asbestos can increase your chances of dying 50% if i remember right, i wouldnt touch anyfin else unless it was clay or concrete. its on the back burner now anyway fell out with the lad i was starting it up with.
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

BDCS

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2010, 11:03:54 pm »
Asbestos and the fumes in the van - DS will be ordering a coffin soon ! My grandad died of asbestos poisoning - it took a month to cremate him - sorry for those easily offended  :P

stalwart

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Re: setting up a roof coating limited company
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2010, 06:30:14 am »
gis a light
Been there,seen it,done it,just cant remember when