[CleanerCarpets]

Hi

Ive been having a play & testing some different protectors. I have used the same water based protector on carpets for a long time but the product clogs badly & i am fed up with having to constantly strip down the sprayer before using it again. I have tried some other water based ones, which were twice as much as the other product but they didnt clog which was great and they offerred much bigger coverage areas for less applied so should of proved equally as competitve on price. However, i dont seem to be able to achieve this (even with the recommended fine jet) and so they are proving expensive. I use a pump up Orion with lance & upholstery fitting to spray on - maybe i need an electric sprayer to get the better coverage from these products?

Does anyone use a solvent protector on carpet? Under testing the solvent ones seem to work really well but i know the solvents may have issues with the carpets/backings.

Does anyone use a water based one thats cost effect and doesnt clog up the sprayer? 

Thanks

Jase

[Phillip Mold]

I use water based promite, have done in my own house (we had a new puppy recently!) and found it effective with no problems. I do use a separate sprayer for it, and wash it carefully immedicately after use, in the custys house.

[CleanerCarpets]

dont you tire of washing it up after every job? must be a better way than that - i dont want to be washing 'my tools ' in a customers house at the end of each job, ive been mad busy last few months, sometimes not getting in til 8pm so need something thats a better option.

promite is the product i've used for years but if you look in the 5L container it comes in when you buy it new it already contains loads of clogs!!! just kills the sprayers

[Clean2Day]

Common problem! I spoke to robert last week and apparently having issues with their suppliers in belgium?? So I'm having to use fluroseal plus, or aquaseal, I do rather rate alltec's though so will go back to theirs when I can get hold of some!. Anyways,  I have 2 plastic pump up jobbies, one with fresh water so I can just switch lances to flush any debris out and clean the nozzle, takes 2 mins. Hope this helps.

[JandS]

Sweeping statement that on your website.
Clean 50 times better than conventional cleaning.
And what's this damaging heated water??

John

[Stu.Clem]

Always had really good trouble free results using stainsheild professional from cleansmart  - using an orion sprayer with the yellow fan nozzle - lightly groom in following an application of north to south east to west....


Stu

ps.  recently stainsheilded my own new lounge carpet and it was accidently tested with half a can of fosters falling from a small table - left a frothing pool of lager 2 - 3mm deep over a ft long - rushed into kitchen grabbed a towel and and kitchen roll just laid it on - lager gone and carpet left dry!!!!! awesome

[Ricky M]

Not like you to waste a bevy old boy
most be an age issue  :
it comes to us all in the end eh 

[CleanerCarpets]

thanks guys, good idea about having 2 sprayers - one with water to flush the lance thru!!

JandS - website states upto 50 times better which is what the manufacturer states and as regards high temps have you not ever seen what high temps can do to wool? maybe you need a course matey

[CleanerCarpets]

PS

if you have a problem with my site - maybe you should moan about Safeclean's too - they state -

'The system does not require fibre damaging high temperatures allowing carpets and upholstery to last longer. Our products work at a molecular level physically destroying soiling, odours and dust mites. It also safely eliminates viruses, fungal spores, harmful bacteria and breaks down allergy triggering proteins without the need for harsh chemicals or aggressive cleaning.

Once the process is dry it biodegrades and it is undetectable, leaving no dirt attracting residues. This allows you to go longer between cleans. You can be confident that our unique system will create a clean, healthy environment whilst achieving outstanding results that will last.'

The sol's they use are as mine - just rebranded for them so sold as 'unique to Safeclean' (even tho we had used them for maybe a year before them!

The debate over heat will go on and on and on and on. I dont need it, i clean to my customers and my satisfaction and my last 3 months have been by busiest ever. Nuff said!

[markpowell]

Just out of interest how would high heat cleaning damage the carpet fibres?
I use HWE as my main cleaning tool and remove 99.9% of all soiling from the carpet, how would your method remove upto 50 times more.
If you need to advertise false facts and put other cleaners methods down in order to get work then that is a sad situation to be in, NUFF SAID!!
Mark

[CleanerCarpets]

false facts??!! i use facts as stated by the manufacturer of the product. So what do you base your 99.9% soil removal rate on eh, just a figure plucked out of your head? Would love to see a lab test or some evidence to back up your claim!!! And where and when do i 'put down other cleaners'??

[CleanerCarpets]

PS Mark - seeing as you have an opinion on me - why advertise you are Green Cleaning & a member of a National Green Cleaning network when you obviously prefer detergents & high heat? Not very green that eh??!!

Why do you need high heat if you are working with 'food grade phosphate or an eco friendly colloidal solution' (that it states on your network site) when these rinse freely & without heat, unless of course you advertise that and then actually use detergents or worse!!??

[John Kelly]

All protectors more or less work out the same price per square metre when you take into account dilution rates and coverage.
 As regards clogging they are a resin in a water or solvent carrier. Unfortunately this does make them prone to clogging when the carrier fluid evaporates off. Not surprisingly the ones that clog the most are likely to be better protectors as it is indicating a higher solids content.

[rich hand]

After changing to a nano protector I don't get the clogging any more. However my Orion sprayer still has great problems in pumping after the 1st application ie. when you release the pressure, add new solution and pump up again it sprays great but when the pressure drops it is almost impossible to pump up again, somthing to do with the flap valve at the end of the punger.

[CleanerCarpets]

thanks John - really useful comment which is appreciated. I had wondered if the clogging had an indication on the 'strength' of the protector.

i have also tried nano - great as it doesnt clog but i have the same spraying issues with my orion too!! do the Prochem or Chemspec one's clog?

anyone use solvent protectors on carpets?