[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

lc

You can clean a belgian wilton with hot water extraction, however the first thing you should look for is if it is  securely fitted as this is what will accelerate any possible shrinkage. If the fitting looks dodgy, you can tack it down around the edges into the gripper to give you peace of mind.

Don't over pre-spray, extract and carry out plenty of dry passes and if possible get an air mover on it to speed up the drying.

Hope this helps.

Steve

[lcwalker]

lc

You can clean a belgian wilton with hot water extraction, however the first thing you should look for is if it is  securely fitted as this is what will accelerate any possible shrinkage. If the fitting looks dodgy, you can tack it down around the edges into the gripper to give you peace of mind.

Don't over pre-spray, extract and carry out plenty of dry passes and if possible get an air mover on it to speed up the drying.

Hope this helps.

Steve

Thanks steve

[derek west]

spider senses tingling again.

derek

[daysdeepclean]

I was thinking that before Derek.... It's got to be a wind up

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

I sincerely hope not, I don't like wasting my time 


Steve

[aandm]

Never claimed to be an expert, but 1. I never shrunk a carpet in ten years of commercial and domestic work, and, 2. You have got to admit there is some people on here who just want to be negative to any newcomer!! and you just have to wonder why, is it because they are worried their secret will be found out? however much they say it aint rocket science they want to make out that it is!!!! by frightening people with their comments and what would appear vastly superior experience!!!

[lcwalker]

I was thinking that before Derek.... It's got to be a wind up

I read all your comment on this topic hardly any have been helpfull,so im wondering why are you so unhelpfull, is it because everyone tomorrow is going to quit there jobs to become a carpet cleaner?.

[Barry Livingstone]

CARPET cleaning is  a service we are in the service industry, giving a service......nothing more!!!! my brothers a brickie, spent years at college and learning carpet cleaners to a few days learning ...BIG deal... were no trades men ....

[HQCS (John Kastrian)]

Colin,
curiosity has got the better of me,please put me out of my misery and explain why you consider my post to be one of the most negative,are you referring to any particular comment or all of them?
My post was made a little tongue in cheek (hence the smilies),but reading the thread it seems it may have touched a few nerves  
Just to clarify I was never suggesting to attempt the cleaning of a customers carpets without a certain amount of training,but it seems that some peeps here will have one believe that you must complete 50 years of training before being considered qualified to clean your first carpet,and I bet that first carpet was their own,we have all been there but after a time peeps forget .
Training and experience are two totally different entities,you can have as much training as you like but in reality you learn with experience.
Every carpet cleaner here,without exception,must have at some point cleaned a customers carpet with very little training when they first set out,and anyone that says differently is telling porkies  
Sorry to be so negative m8  
John

[vacman]

I was thinking that before Derek.... It's got to be a wind up

I read all your comment on this topic hardly any have been helpfull,so im wondering why are you so unhelpfull, is it because everyone tomorrow is going to quit there jobs to become a carpet cleaner?.

Potentially, yes. Its the same with any 'trade' (call it what you will, cleaning is a trade to me, the same as any other) a lot of people come along thinking that they can just ditch their high-pressure job or sink their redundancy into something as basic as "cleaning", only it's not until it's too late that they realise it's not all plain sailing.

The negativity you've received is because there have been so many posts over the years from people who think they can have a quick dabble in the fields in which we work. Yes its a free country, but it's the constant stream of "well how hard can it be?" attitude that pees people off. Are you in that catagory? I'm not sure. May be you are, may be you're not. Point is, your original message certainly lacked the commitment that you'd need to apply to make your carpet cleaning work.

Add-ons are great if it's something which you could do with your eyes shut and done IF you really need to do it. Some people here successfully make money by subbing work out, while others find it more cost-effective to turn excess work down as the subbing-out isn't work the time and the stress.


Some sell products and make money on that, whilst others Find it’s not worth the trouble by the time they’ve dealt with faulty items and what-not. Its all about doing something that your are comfortable doing, are able to do successfully and cost-effectively, and enjoy doing.

[daysdeepclean]

No mate, I've made mistakes when I worked for a carpet cleaner up north that cost me and my boss a lot of money, a 3 piece suite .

I've had experience at being a bit of a Cowboy and it's not the way ahead my friend.

Didn't mean to sound negative, it's just that sometimes wind up merchants come on here with their stories of cleaning a hotel with a Vax and that sort of thing.

And I love taking the bait

I wish you all the best dude!!!!

Colin...

[daysdeepclean]

Colin,
curiosity has got the better of me,please put me out of my misery and explain why you consider my post to be one of the most negative,are you referring to any particular comment or all of them?
My post was made a little tongue in cheek (hence the smilies),but reading the thread it seems it may have touched a few nerves  
Just to clarify I was never suggesting to attempt the cleaning of a customers carpets without a certain amount of training,but it seems that some peeps here will have one believe that you must complete 50 years of training before being considered qualified to clean your first carpet,and I bet that first carpet was their own,we have all been there but after a time peeps forget .
Training and experience are two totally different entities,you can have as much training as you like but in reality you learn with experience.
Every carpet cleaner here,without exception,must have at some point cleaned a customers carpet with very little training when they first set out,and anyone that says differently is telling porkies  
Sorry to be so negative m8  
John

I was merely pointing out that you were being negative against the seasoned carpet cleaners on this forum, or at least that's how I read it....

Didn't mean to offend you or anyone else in any way, I just don't want people to fall into the traps I've been in

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,

There is no way CC is as complicated as some other trades but there is a much more complex end to the spectrum, particularly in relation to stain removal.

If you work at this end you get better prices and more job satisfaction, it's about doing things which others can't.

Cheers

Doug

[lcwalker]

Hi Guys,

There is no way CC is as complicated as some other trades but there is a much more complex end to the spectrum, particularly in relation to stain removal.

If you work at this end you get better prices and more job satisfaction, it's about doing things which others can't.

Cheers

I always thought stain removel was part of general carpet cleaning, isn't this the case is there people that just specialise in stains?.
Doug

I always thought stain removel was part of general carpet cleaning, isn't this the case is there people that just specialise in stains?.

[will01]

Icwalker:

Rgds the BW..... As Steve Barnett has said but personally I always "Dry" bonnet after hwe and never hwe approx 6 inches from (mostly) kitchen doorways.

Just spray a little zipdry down there and bonnet usually does the trick.

Look friend in our game there are always cowboys who think that cc is a piece of p. They are usually the proverbial "Jack of all trades but master of none"

They give genuine cc firms a bad name as they usually leave disgruntled customers in their wake who then tar us all with the same brush.

The impression you gave (Me) in your initial posts was one of complacency. I mean you seem to have your finger in a lot of pies but I get the impression you are not earning enough from your present business to make it profitable hence you want to add cc to your list of services hoping for a quick fix.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,

Stain rermoval is one of the areas where the job goes from amateur to professional.

Some CC's will use HWE and if the stain doesn't come out then it is 'permanent'. Others will endeavor to remove all stains but not have the knowledge or chemicals or know how to remove them.

If you can understand what is actually happening, the nature of the carpet fibre in relation to the stain, when to oxidise, when to reduce, the use of different solvents, solubility parameters, how stains bond, pH in relation to colour then you are as complex, if not more than Electricians or Central heating engineers.

There will always be a range of CC's from the spalsh and dash to the well trained dedicated expert and trying to compare the two is like trying to compare the pub singer to Pavorotti!

Cheers

Doug

[bobby p]

In my early years, I do so many training courses that the then Managing Director of Prochem, wondered what the hell I was doing sitting there on the front row every January doing the same three courses I had done the previous January.

Simon

 now that Really is funny      now i dont want to get your backup, but just how many times did hav to drill it into you?

[Matt Lindus]

I think it was down to young love Bobby, just waiting for that perfect moment every January to ask him to marry him.
He should have just bit the bullet between p**s removal and lunch break.

I could just imagine them all going "ahhhhhhhhhh how lovely" now, back to it, how did you say you remove old lady poo from carpets don?

[james roffey]

Ive been trading now for about 4 months doing better than expected and customers so far have been delighted, BUT the training is inadequate some people are saying you learn on the job but that by defintion means you will learn from the mistakes you make in the customers home, that cant be right, i did the spot and stain removal course recently with "the big clean" Paul Pearce teaching but what do you learn it is very basic stuff i want to know so much more but what can i do all the 1 day 2 day courses will teach the same basic stuff theres nothing else i had to contact the NCCA directly about one particular stain in a wool berber because i did not know what was the best way remove it.
Yes being a carpet cleaner is easy, but to be a good carpet cleaner you need to be
A good salesman you have to convince the client that paying you more than some other carpet cleaner is the right thing to do.
You have to understand marketing how to reach you customers first whether in be an internet site, van graphics/ design
Its much much more than just getting a few leaflets printed just look at the guys on here earning top money they earn top money because they are smart, stupid carpet cleaners will either just plod along charging £18 for one room or they wont last the course.
So get smart!

[Peter Sweeney]

Blimey Jim

Your a fast learner. 

Pete