[derek west]

recognition
referals (lots of)
benevolant fund
insurance
discounts on chems
mentoring
none profit organisation
working for carpet cleaners to unite the elite and discedit the unworthy.
to help the customer decide

all these things are what TACCA's about.

and how did i come to all this.

from discussion, listening and asking questions.

food for thought for anyone who has or is starting a real organisation,

i'd join TACCA tomorrow if thats what it promised.

derek

[Darren O]

So i take it its true about the £109 per year to join  as nobody is denying it so what do we get for our £109 per year.

[Simon Gerrard]

Darren,

Sorry buddy, all questions relating to this new association are forbidden, by order of Mike Osborne.

Mike,
You don't have to read any of my posts and you certainly don't have to keep replying to them. If you don't like what I'm saying, fine, just ignore it, but I don't think you have the right to stifle other people's views just because you don't like them.

Simon

[will_turton]

anyone watch x factor last nite 

[robert meldrum]

I suppose it was predictable .............but some of the posts are pathetic. Derek, your recent post was one of the worst I've read on here but doesn't really surprise me coming from you.

I've never met Pete Sweeney, but from what I know of him, he is a real gentleman and will probably not respond to such a pathetic and insulting post .

When you started posting you were amusing, but your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance. You are clearly on an ego trip, but unfortunately for you, you are a boy among men.

Responding to a fool from a keyboard isn't quite the same as responding to a muppet in your face. In life it's usually the case that people who go on about " being the man " type crap are the cowards and the wimps in society.
You should immediately apologise for that post and try to consider the impact your rants have on decent people

[Mike Osbourne]

Simon I'm no fool, I realise you will never shut up.

And actually you have a point. If people stop posting replies, your rants will slip down the order.

Billy

Who won?

  

[derek west]

I suppose it was predictable .............but some of the posts are pathetic. Derek, your recent post was one of the worst I've read on here but doesn't really surprise me coming from you.

I've never met Pete Sweeney, but from what I know of him, he is a real gentleman and will probably not respond to such a pathetic and insulting post .

When you started posting you were amusing, but your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance. You are clearly on an ego trip, but unfortunately for you, you are a boy among men.

Responding to a fool from a keyboard isn't quite the same as responding to a muppet in your face. In life it's usually the case that people who go on about " being the man " type crap are the cowards and the wimps in society.
You should immediately apologise for that post and try to consider the impact your rants have on decent people

there he is, right on cue

you make me laugh bob, keep em coming

all the best me scottish buddy

derek

ps... not sure where my insults were but i'm sure you'll point them out for me.

[Simon Gerrard]

Mike,

Why are you so opposed to people participating in what a Forum is actually about - discussion? If it were left to you every post would have to be vetted and censored to make sure you agree with its contents which is pathetic.

At the very least I've got the balls to stand up for what I believe in. You're just one of life's hecklers that like to stand on the touchline watching the game being played out and take great pleasure in shouting abuse at the players, whilst not having the balls to get on the pitch and get involved yourself.
Other than that I'm sure you're a very nice man, and I mean that.

Simon

[Joe H]

What I cannot uderstand Simon, is a bit like Mike I suppose.
If the new association thingy doesnt want to talk about it yet why bother to keep going on at them to the point a wife is obviously getting upset.
Cant you just let it go.
When they ready and they want to tell the world then the world can take a look and if they like it they go for it and if they dont like they wont go for it.
If its free or paid, its for them to decide.

[paul moss]

Derek which wife are we on about Glynns's Mrs. Karen Waterworth or Denise?

Simon do you think that ITV wrote to the BBC when they had an idea to start another channel? there's not alot to tell until things are detailed and finalised then everyone can have the chance to see them all at their leisure. Nice to see that Paul has filled you in because his OWN private members click hasn't worked?

Shaun

Wow   a few are getting techy.

Shaun, can you expand on that ?  as I have not discussed CLEAN  with Simon.

Denice, Peter has his heart in the right place. When trying to do stuff like this you always get flack. Comes with the job i suppose.

[robert meldrum]

You'll be happy to know I won't make any comments on future posts you make, in fact you're doing me a favour, as I spend less time on here since your childish ramblings got worse over the past few weeks.

What started off as amusing, has deteriorated into something else.

If you can't, or refuse to acknowledge the posts being referred to, you're an even  sadder  little person than I thought.

[derek west]

You'll be happy to know I won't make any comments on future posts you make, in fact you're doing me a favour, as I spend less time on here since your childish ramblings got worse over the past few weeks.

What started off as amusing, has deteriorated into something else.

If you can't, or refuse to acknowledge the posts being referred to, you're an even  sadder  little person than I thought.

you love me really robert

derek

[Simon Gerrard]

Joe,

So just because they, or you don't want us to talk about it means we shouldn't talk about it. I thought this was an open forum where members can discuss whatever they liked provided they don't breach the forum rules! If people weren't interested in the subject matter, indeed the exchange of views from different perspectives, then why is this topic on it's fourth page with over 800 views in less than three days, but you'd suppress that because you don't like the subject matter, would you?
The trouble with you Joe is you seem to blow hot - blow cold, one minute you're all for something, the next you're not and the rest of the time you just sit on the fence, which is fine, you're aloud to do that on here because on here freedom of speech rules as does the right for me, or anyone else to talk complete and utter bollox, which is a rule I take outright advantage of at every opportunity.

Simon

[Joe H]

but we have all expressed our views, shouldnt that be enough.
but its gone on and on and got very personal at times, which IMO is not good.
I stated my view on this new association thingy earlier when I said I thought it better to channel energies if possible thro the organisation thats been in existance for 40 years.
Was it Karen W that said it takes years for an organisation to get acceptance, I agree with that.
So whatever aims the new assoc has will indeed take a long time to get recognition on a wide scale, thats why using an existing form of transport would IMO be better.
Its not about stiffling discussion, Simon, the discussion has taken place now its just repeats and like TV it gets boring.

and as for 800 views, well some are just looking at the bun fight, some will love it, and some will say they not bothering again with them lot - all they do is argue. And thats a fact cause it has been said to me - sad really.

[Simon Gerrard]

But if no one is interested in the subject matter, why so many views, why so many replies.
What you're trying to do is stifle any further discussion of the matter because YOU'VE had enough, well fine, click on other topics and ignore this one, that's what other people do. There are lots of topics on here I'm not interested in so I don't participate in them and I suggest you do the same.

Simon

[Glynn]

Hi guy's
 We've just launched the Mentoring Scheme on the TruckMounters Forum and have emailed all of our members in the hope of coming up with a diverse group of people willing to take newcomers to the industry under their wing and show them the ropes.
 
We hope that the moderators of this forum will feel able to do the same thing so that we can act as a community to help our fellow cleaners where required.
 
Glynn

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Mentoring has been around for a long time due to the forums, we have been offering this service in earnest for about a month I think Peter has been the most prolific mentor to date.

Shaun

[derek west]

well done glyn, great idea and easily applied, all though i feel confident in cleaning now i still wouldn't mind going out with a veteran, especially a long the lines of bonneting as i'm quite new to it. and you never know what you might pick up along the way.
i hope ciu introduce this and sticky tab it to the top so maybe i can find someone who can help me out.
derek

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Likewise as you can't get enough mentors.

Shaun

[Mike Halliday]

I think putting up a list of people willing to be mentors is  bad idea.

I have been on these forums for about 10yrs over that time I have seen a countless number people thinking of entering a business or are new starters asking for help,

I have offered my help to about 8  but I chose these 8 if I had my name at the top of a forum I would have had 20-30 people contacting me looking for help, but half of them would have been idiots who I wouldn't waste my time with. This sounds a bit callous but there are people who are thinking of entering our industry who are not suitable.

2 weeks ago I went out to tea with a guy who asked for help on Cleantalk it was just 2 hours of general chat about our industry but before I invited him out I read his post post and chose to offer my help. The other side of the coin was a guy a couple of months go asking for help on CIU, who spoke in some stupid text speak and looked like he couldn't string 2 words together.

 do I want my name & tel No on the top of this board so this type of person can call me.... not a chance.

if anyone wants mentoring then let them come on here or any other board and introduce them selves then ask for help. then we can chose who we are willing to offer our help too

plue as food for thought.... my wife has just done a 6month module as part of her degree learning how to mentor student nurses. Who says we won't do more harm than good