[Simon Gerrard]

Shaun,
Does that mean Pete will be putting his name on the CIU mentors list along with you and Doug, assuming he can set his commercial interests aside for the short time it will take to set up a sticky topic at the top of the board and get things moving on here?

Simon

[Simon Gerrard]

Mike,

Fair comment.
I wouldn't even consider mentoring someone unless they had completed a formal recognised training course and could prove it, and had already got their business up and running and could convince me in a phone call that they were worth investing my time in.


Simon

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Which sticky? Can't see one?

Shaun

[Simon Gerrard]

Shaun,

You need to get Doug to sort one out for Clean It Up. We've got one going on TruckMounters and Glyn's going to see if he can get one on CleanTalk (well, you can only ask)

Simon

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Have one on CCDO also.

Up to Mr.Boxxall really.

Shaun

[Mike Halliday]

I think it would be only reasonable for anyone who believes they are suitable to be mentor to send a full CV (inc a 3000 word essay on why they are good enough to be mentor and not just a dilutional loser who has an over inflated self opinion of themselves ) to Mike B, then he might consider a sticky list.

but to just put up a list of anyone who thinks they can mentor is not sensible, Ok we have some very good bloke on here as well as Truckmounter, CCDO forum & cleantalk but also we have some experienced people who couldn't help a new starter but believe they could.

Mentoring is a good idea, but a list where anyone can put there name is not the right way to do it, it needs a little more thought.

[Andy Hogarth]

I went out with Geoff wrightson, I phoned him when I was in trouble or unsure a few times in the early days and to be honest if I hadn't gone out with Geoff I don't think I'd be at the level I am now. I now see Geoff as a very good mate and try to pass work onto him or speak to him whenever possible. I often get a message sayin I'm worse than him at answering phone calls

I've also spoke to Pete Sweeny a few times, purely because he has offered out of goodness and is a very honest helpfull guy, I've never met him but really look forward to doing so.

I've had nothing but help from everybody on these forums and see the forums themselves as a mentoring platform,
Anybody seriously considering starting up needs to get out there and see how it's done by the pro's I reccomend it lots

[Mike Halliday]

 
cut & pasted from CCDO forum

anyone wanting to use a mentor please contact a member from an area or person from the members list

Shaun are you saying every single person on the members list of CCDO forum has agreed to be a mentor?

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I think it's up to the cleaner who is contacted, if they say no then the person who called should move onto the next cleaner just as you would if you called out of the blue by someone one here.

Shaun

[derek west]

I think it would be only reasonable for anyone who believes they are suitable to be mentor to send a full CV (inc a 3000 word essay on why they are good enough to be mentor and not just a dilutional loser who has an over inflated self opinion of themselves.

mike
with mr meldrum nastily and un called for, saying point blank i'm an egotist amongst other extremely insulting (and unprovoked to him) things, forgive me and my paranoia if i'm wrong in thinking your aiming that at me, but i'd just like to say that in no way or form would i consider myself a mentor on this scheme, and i have openly admitted that i could benefit from being mentored.

derek

[Simon Gerrard]

Mike,
It's just a list of people willing to help other people. If people don't like their mentor they drop him / her and vica-versa, simples.

Simon

[Glynn]

Mike
Mentoring is to support and encourage people to manage their own learning in order that they may maximise their potential, develop their skills, improve their performance and become the person they want to be.
How do you think people become say motor mechanics ?, do you think they have a full time tutor ?, no they pick up the skill by watching and doing what the mechanic does in front of them.
Isn't this just what we are talking about ?.

[Mike Halliday]

Derek my comment was no way aimed at you, this is why this mentor idea needs more thought.

 if someone came along and wanted advice about how hard it is to start a carpet cleaning business in today world, you could mentor them better than me because this is something you have just experienced, I don't know whats it like to have a young family and struggle, I have it easy.

I don't do any commercial work how can I mentor someone on this, it needs to be the other way round people ask then any one suitable offers

[Mike Halliday]

Glyn an apprentice will watch a person who is qualified t do that job, a garage would let the tea boy teach an apprentice to change a gearbox , that my point just to ask people to put their names up as a mentor is wrong

[Simon Gerrard]

Mike,
If you were, but clearly won't be on the mentors list, you could sort all of this out during the initial phone call. I wouldn't mentor someone unless I felt I had the skills I thought the person needed, neither would anyone else, I assume.

Simon

[derek west]

maybe a tag line in what your good at.

NAME                                   MENTORING IN                                       PHONE

derek west...................nappy changing.........................................0123456789
                                     telling really funny jokes
                                     

derek

[Simon Gerrard]

Erm - Yeah, ok, Derek, well call you if we need you......

[derek west]

well i was gonna put carpet cleaning, but telling funny jokes covered that

its okay for you, your an expert on bra sizes

i'm wasted on here, i'm of to the pampers forum


"OH COME ON"

i'll see myself out.

derek

[Simon Gerrard]

And shut the door behind you and put the bin out on the way out the gate.

[derek west]

now i know what mike means by being more specific


NAME                                   MENTORING IN                                       PHONE

derek west...................nappy changing.........................................0123456789
                                     telling really funny jokes for the under 50's

derek