[Neil Williams]

I became very unpopular on here a year or so ago for expressing exactly the same sentiments as Simon and Derek.

I seem to remember joining in on that one and agreeing with a few who weren't comfortable with the prices some seem to charge.
I have always had a problem with people selling add-ons particulary stain protectors on polyprop, anti allegy when no one in that household needs protecting, anti static and any other anti-thingy that just pushes the price up.
I've just had one of those Alltec leaflets delivered from a guy who works 17 miles away in a town probably 3 times bigger than the one he is delivering to, and it's full of scare mongering jibberish. part of me wants to copy this format but I like to think I have enough scrupples not to get involved in this cr-p.

[Goldfinch PCS]

I became very unpopular on here a year or so ago for expressing exactly the same sentiments as Simon and Derek.

I've just had one of those Alltec leaflets delivered from a guy who works 17 miles away in a town probably 3 times bigger than the one he is delivering to, and it's full of scare mongering jibberish. part of me wants to copy this format but I like to think I have enough scrupples not to get involved in this cr-p.

Seems like Neil is tempted by fast-track. But Can I say I am not knocking any particular program. I guess most CCs in the UK are expose to Fast-Track but what about Jonathan Jay's Success Track? Anybody with any experience of that?

As far as price is concerned we have been talking about this and we will continue to for decades.  But, £5 for a bedroom and  £40 for a 3pc Suite?? OK fare play to that person it's his business.

I just wanted to know if anyone had any live experience of Jonathan Jay's Success Track or Joe Polish Piranha. It doesn't hurt to get some top-end custies. 

[Neil Williams]

Seems like Neil is tempted by fast-track

I think we are all tempted by the chance to double our ticket prices but I refuse to sell anything that I know isn't going to benefit the customer one iota. Flip, I even tell customers (after inspection and telling them how to do it) to take suite coverings off and wash them themselves via the washing machine. Why? because they will get a better clean that way, I get to just clean the frames and they'll trust me in future for an honest approach to their cleaning needs with recommendations to book.
I know which system I prefere for continued honest custom. But each to their own I suppose. Some enjoy walking away with a cheque for £300 for 2 hours work and a sprinkling of watered down protector and some enjoy walking away with £150 and satisfaction for an honest job and a possible customer/friend for life.

[Mike Osbourne]

Let's face it the average carpet cleaner just goes in, looks around a bit and gives a price and when she says I'll give you a ring they walk out the door and that's it.

There's a big difference between that and even the most basic of selling skills, which as I keep saying has nothing to do with being pushy or trying to sell something they don't need.

[Neil Williams]

Can't argue with that Mike

[Goldfinch PCS]

Seems like Neil is tempted by fast-track

 Flip, I even tell customers (after inspection and telling them how to do it) to take suite coverings off and wash them themselves via the washing machine. Why? because they will get a better clean that way, I get to just clean the frames and they'll trust me in future for an honest approach to their cleaning needs with recommendations to book.

I thought I was an idiot, I have done this a couple of times well. I think about what I have done during cleaning the frames, it bugs me for a while as  I could charge for the whole thing but now all I can do is charge for  the frame. But I always get recommendations and a testimonial from my customer so I guess I should be pleased.

[A+CleaningService]

 You make it sound like fast track is like selling  double  glazing. Next they will be doing the show home offer,
You know if people feel like they have been ripped off, they don't call again.

But if they feel they have had a wonderful service, then great!

[Goldfinch PCS]

So I guess fast-track has its highs and lows, its lovers and certainly haters. Oh well, I will give Robert a ring if I don't increase my number of top-end clients during the Christmas Season. I like to take on alternative views or ideas, it might work or it might not but nothing tried nothing gained.

So I guess there are no Jonathan Jay or Joe Polish followers on here?

[clinton]

There was one company here near me who did the f t and they have now gone into cleaning hard floors etc now and franchise the work out

[Goldfinch PCS]

So Clinton, it would seem as though there are good benefits to be had from joining Fast-Track.
 That's good positive news. Thanks.

[clinton]

Hi

They were in it from the very early days as i can remember so maybe got in at the right time.I did use some piranha stuff on my old yel pages years ago too.

Just found it was not for me mate and i did use the letter and keeping in touch ideas a bit.

I found it was really all my hard work and spending some time with the client when i was at there house
that helped them get to know me and get repeat and referal work from them and that has helped me run a very succsessfull set up

They have always been a front runner in the cleaning bus and foward thinking company so gues it did work.They did have a good few staff to help run it and still do..

Good luck with your plans mind you

[Karl Wildey]

Goldflinch,
lets make this easier. You need a wall built, do you ask a plumber, electricain or a brickie?

Therefore how can anyone who has not been a  fast tracker give a honest answer. You not been one therefore do not know how it works or whether it would suit that person, we are all different. I was not a fast tracker but a piranha member, and yes some of it was good, some I did not like. It suited me at the time.

[Goldfinch PCS]

Thanks Karl, I wanted opinions off people were apart of these programs. But, it was still interesting to get the views of others who aren't a part of any programs and don't seem them as been useful.

[Ian Gourlay]

there was a CC on it from Leicester, can't remember the name of the company,

So that marketing worked well then. 

His name was Chris Bailey, He used to be on this Forum ,

I did get impression he was quiting  Carpet Cleaning  due to ill Health.  Then he pops up Cleaning antheas Carpet . It appears to have worked

[Goldfinch PCS]

Then he pops up Cleaning antheas Carpet . It appears to have worked

Is there anyone who hasn't cleaned Anthea's Carpets.  Thank heavens Stan or Master Swen aint around no more or we would be reading about CCs with broken nose or the media blaming CCs for England's poor performance. 

[clinton]

Chris is still around and does post on another forum

[A+CleaningService]

 What is so special about Anthea Turner anyway. She may be a nice person, but she is a has-been, has far as celebs go.

I am sure she works with Altec, through the goodness of her heart.  Nothing to do with the money she is paid.

[robert meldrum]

Yaeh suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure