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Ste M

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tomorrow is the day
« on: September 27, 2009, 08:56:07 pm »
Well my backpack system arrives tomorrow so after 6 years of being traditional i am making the switch over. Just wanted to ask a quick bit of advice first on how to clean properly, ive watched a few videos and also listened to advice on here but am i right in how it all works, basically

1. clean the frames first
2. go over the windows with the brush touching the glass
3. pull the brush back and just soak the windows back down.
4. window done and move on?

Also i have seen videos of people cleaning conservatory roof,s and they seemed to spray something on first? what is this and is it neccessery or do you just wash away with the WFP and it all comes up nice?

Thanks ste

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 09:00:04 pm »
Hi Ste, what they spray on the conservatory roof is usually TFR (Traffic Film Remover)
I would never use my WFP brush when using TFR as this will contaminate the WFP brush.
I use a caravan brush if I ever have to use TFR.
I normally just use pure water.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 09:04:01 pm »
cheer matt

is TFR only used on heavily soiled roof's then? where do you get it from? also am i right with my first few points?

ste

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 09:09:20 pm »
Well my backpack system arrives tomorrow so after 6 years of being traditional i am making the switch over. Just wanted to ask a quick bit of advice first on how to clean properly, ive watched a few videos and also listened to advice on here but am i right in how it all works, basically

1. clean the frames first
2. go over the windows with the brush touching the glass
3. pull the brush back and just soak the windows back down.
4. window done and move on?

Also i have seen videos of people cleaning conservatory roof,s and they seemed to spray something on first? what is this and is it neccessery or do you just wash away with the WFP and it all comes up nice?

Thanks ste

The point in red, I wouldnt just soak the window, you have to chase the water down in a zig-zag motion.
what type of backpack are you getting?


Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 09:14:30 pm »
apologies that is what i meant as its how i have seen it done on the video's.

http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/backpacks/wcw-backpack.html

one of these matt. first go at the WFP and i think this is the best way to find out if it works for me and my customers, if it does i will be investing in a van and a proper set up after christmas

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 09:24:58 pm »
I have exactly the same Backpack Ste.
I use it more than my van mounted lol
on one charge you will easily get a days work out of it.
the flow rate is good too.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 09:27:59 pm »
is there any advice you could give me then matt?

how much water will i get through per average 2/3 bed house do you think?

cheers for the advice so far mate

ste

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 09:31:31 pm »
2 pieces of advice I would say is.
1.)make sure the water you have is pure a TDS of 000
2.) give the window a very good rinse.
Also be carefull around the air vents at the top of the windows, I keep well clear of them, because if you accidentally splash water into the vent it will drip dirty water down the window all day.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2009, 09:35:31 pm »
to start with you will probably use a full backpack on the rear and another on the fronts, this will come down with practice and experience.
I can clean an average 3 bed semi on one full backpack.
I have been WFP since Feb this year.
make sure to brush the black rubber seals around the window as it is these that hold on to detergent and chemicals these have to be cleaned off and flushed out.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2009, 09:38:52 pm »
cheers matt, im going to have a few practice runs on my house first and take it from there, ill slowly introduce it into my round. got enough containers for 100L to carry round and ill top up where and when i can. do you just top up from your van?

ste

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2009, 09:44:09 pm »
Yes, I have a 350litre tank in the van, I make sure its full at the start of the day.
also a selling point to your customers, once you start cleaning with pure water the customers will see that rain water will dry in the same fashion as pure water, spotless.
a few of my customers have noticed this and told me.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 09:46:48 pm »
nice one, i never new that, i will tell them an see if they notice, i suppose if it does it means you can carry on cleaning when its raining

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2009, 09:49:50 pm »
yes you can clean in the rain mate, Rain water has a TDS of about 025 and this will be diluted when you clean them.
TDS of 010-015 will dry ok, the marks left with a TDS of that will be invisible to the naked eye.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2009, 10:00:31 pm »
nice one. ive got a meter coming as well so i will be able to test the water

Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2009, 10:32:31 pm »
Prepare to ache.

Good luck.

Its a good move, there is no doubt about that.


Scrub scrub, rinse rinse rinse rinse!

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2009, 10:45:45 pm »
dont worry bout me aching i go to a physio every 6-8 weeks tp keep me feeling good

TonyD

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2009, 11:40:47 pm »
Hi Ste, I'd like to have a look at how it's working out one day when you're using it if you don't mind, as you know I'm just about to go down the same route myself and local and would appreciate the nosy around how it's working.  Give me a call if you get the time or remember when you're using it one day, ta, Tony 07799226747.  Ohh, and good luck with it.

Ste M

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Re: tomorrow is the day
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2009, 11:55:21 pm »
youve got e-mail tony