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johnnyzooph

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Colour Coding Poster
« on: September 23, 2009, 05:00:51 pm »
Hi All
Anyone know where I can get some Colour Coded wall posters. The sort that identify Red Cloths and mops for toilets, green for kitchens, yellow for sinks etc?

Thanks John

APPLEMAIDCLEANING

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 05:05:45 pm »
we used www.bics.org.uk and printed and laminate  ;D

APPLEMAIDCLEANING

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 05:07:20 pm »
Hi All
Anyone know where I can get some Colour Coded wall posters. The sort that identify Red Cloths and mops for toilets, green for kitchens, yellow for sinks etc?

Thanks John

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johnnyzooph

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2009, 01:40:41 pm »
Hi Andrew
Cheers for replying.
I haven't recieved your email tho. I think my btinternet connection is a bit pants and Im getting a new hub Tuesday.
Could you resend the info to johnnyzooph@hotmail.com please?

Thanks again

APPLEMAIDCLEANING

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2009, 01:47:24 pm »
Hi Andrew
Cheers for replying.
I haven't recieved your email tho. I think my btinternet connection is a bit pants and Im getting a new hub Tuesday.
Could you resend the info to johnnyzooph@hotmail.com please?

Thanks again


sent  ;D

johnnyzooph

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2009, 01:51:00 pm »
Perfect Andrew
Thank you.
Have a great weekend

vacman

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 01:53:53 pm »
Johnny, you do realise (i hope?) that there is no set colour-coding laid out and that the BICS colour coding (which i am in no way knocking) is only a guidence to their prefered choice?

The reason i say this to you is because one day you may very well send your staff to a site where a colour-coding policy is already in use (either by the previous cleaners or the people who use the site) and you may be expected to follow it.

This is why such charts are not that easy to track down, its because most people decide on their colour coding and then make their own charts and posters.

It's really important to make your staff aware that the coding YOU have chosen is not universal. This will prevent them making errors on new sites and, as in one case i witnessed, prevent them from tearing strips of someone who they THINK is using the wrong colour cloth (whereas in fact it was the person doing the strip-tearing who'd got it all wrong).

APPLEMAIDCLEANING

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 02:18:13 pm »
Perfect Andrew
Thank you.
Have a great weekend


Vacman is right we chose to go with BICS because of our in-house training, also as part of your site introduction make sure that you include a colour blind test.  ;D

APPLEMAIDCLEANING

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 02:21:06 pm »
Johnny, you do realise (i hope?) that there is no set colour-coding laid out and that the BICS colour coding (which i am in no way knocking) is only a guidence to their prefered choice?

The reason i say this to you is because one day you may very well send your staff to a site where a colour-coding policy is already in use (either by the previous cleaners or the people who use the site) and you may be expected to follow it.

This is why such charts are not that easy to track down, its because most people decide on their colour coding and then make their own charts and posters.

It's really important to make your staff aware that the coding YOU have chosen is not universal. This will prevent them making errors on new sites and, as in one case i witnessed, prevent them from tearing strips of someone who they THINK is using the wrong colour cloth (whereas in fact it was the person doing the strip-tearing who'd got it all wrong).

i have seen companies who use white in offices, all red but 2 cloths in Toilets. this would confuse people  ???

vacman

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 02:35:03 pm »
Well, i have seen people often use what the heck they like, despite the fact that a colour coding policy has clearly been introduced.

It can only really work if every company uses the same policy and if every cleaner agrees to stick to it. Fact is that the cleaning industry -like so many other industries- is not regulated and i personally can't see that it ever will be. Added to which, the 5 most common colours used will  sometimes have to mean different things, because not all sites will have the same rooms.

For instance, i believe the current NHS coding to be RED washrooms, YELLOW, clinical, BLUE general, GREEN food areas, WHITE theatre areas. I've not been able to find the BICS suggestions. But supposing you have 5 areas, lets say a greasy factory floor instead of an operating theatre, you could pick the white for that area. Which would of course comfuse anyone who was used to cleaning operating theatres  ;D.

However, it does of course need bearing in mind that although colour coding is good working practice, if the cleaning cloths which are being used are disposed of as soon as that area has been cleaned, then it shouldnt really matter what cloth is used. In fact, some would argue that a brand-new cloth of any colour is far more hygenic than the correct colour cloth being rinsed out and re-used. Ditto for disposable gloves.

Floor mopping is where colour-coding really needs to be enforced, because few people will rinse their mops out suffciently to allow them to be used in other areas. One of the biggest problems i have come up against on sites where mop-heads are not laundered in a washing-machine, is the use of different cleaning products being used to wash floors and residue products on the mop-head reacting with the latest choice of floor cleaner.

APPLEMAIDCLEANING

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 02:57:39 pm »
Well, i have seen people often use what the heck they like, despite the fact that a colour coding policy has clearly been introduced.

It can only really work if every company uses the same policy and if every cleaner agrees to stick to it. Fact is that the cleaning industry -like so many other industries- is not regulated and i personally can't see that it ever will be. Added to which, the 5 most common colours used will  sometimes have to mean different things, because not all sites will have the same rooms.

For instance, i believe the current NHS coding to be RED washrooms, YELLOW, clinical, BLUE general, GREEN food areas, WHITE theatre areas. I've not been able to find the BICS suggestions. But supposing you have 5 areas, lets say a greasy factory floor instead of an operating theatre, you could pick the white for that area. Which would of course comfuse anyone who was used to cleaning operating theatres  ;D.

However, it does of course need bearing in mind that although colour coding is good working practice, if the cleaning cloths which are being used are disposed of as soon as that area has been cleaned, then it shouldnt really matter what cloth is used. In fact, some would argue that a brand-new cloth of any colour is far more hygenic than the correct colour cloth being rinsed out and re-used. Ditto for disposable gloves.

Floor mopping is where colour-coding really needs to be enforced, because few people will rinse their mops out suffciently to allow them to be used in other areas. One of the biggest problems i have come up against on sites where mop-heads are not laundered in a washing-machine, is the use of different cleaning products being used to wash floors and residue products on the mop-head reacting with the latest choice of floor cleaner.

Good points, might sound stupid to some fokes but we put colour labels on our cleaning products, if we use a spray for a kitchen and same product for toilets, then mark so no cross contamination and no mixed products.

One thing that bugs me is when clients use any equipment / product any room they feel like. :'( :'(

vacman

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2009, 03:12:48 pm »
Well Apple (may i call u that?), that's the whole point of coding really isn't it, that we -cleaners and clients- all work to the same rules. Doesnt always happen though. I think the safest thing is to ensure all cloths are thrown away, so that the clients only use clean cloths (of any colour) and you know that any cloths left lying around are nothing to do with you or your staff and as such must not be used as they cannot be trusted due to not knowing where they've been used.

For floor mopping, well, not a lot you can do about that.  :(

Worst is when you dont know or get told that things have been 'borrowed' so you trust in how they were left....

dianegreenwood

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2009, 04:04:33 pm »
Hi guys

Pardon me if I'm being dumb but if you clean a kitchen with a cloth (or three) then surely those cloths are now dirty and you'll need a clean one for the next room anyway?

We don't use colour coding of our cloths because they are bagged as soon as used and washed every single day.  A cloth is never reused, nor is a mop head.  None of my team would ever use a cloth they'd just cleaned the bathroom with to clean anything else.  They use it, bag it, then get a clean cloth for the next task.

Obviously we are mostly domestic but we apply the same standards to our commercial clients.

Cheers

Diane

www.freshlymaid.co.uk

vacman

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2009, 04:16:49 pm »
Diane,

The BICS way is that it is acceptable for a cloth to be rinsed (better still washed) and dried and re-used in that same area. So no, the suggestion is NOT that a cloth is taken from room to room, it is that the same cloths can be re-used in the correct colour-coded area. Now, i personally would prefer to see cloths thrown away, so don't shoot the messenger as i am only telling you what it acceptable practice!

The above is assuming one site. It does not automtacically suggest that travelling cleaners take a cloth from Mrs X's kitchen to then wipe down the kitchen at Mr Y's house. Not really. Its about keep cloths for specific areas in specific places.

You will find in regualr commercial cleaning that disposing of mop heads is confined to when the mop is beyond good use. As such, you should expect to see at least 2 mops in most buildings, lets say  a red washroom mop and a blue kitchen mop (my colour choice). If used correctly, this should avoid cross contamination.

Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 11:47:42 am »
A basic guide to the Jangro colour coding system (which is pretty standard) can be found here:
http://www.adcockexpress.co.uk/blogs/latest-news/504682-jangro-colour-coding-system

It would be great if there was a set standard that everyone could follow.

vacman

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Re: Colour Coding Poster
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 08:02:53 pm »
hi Amanda

As above, there is no room to think of colour coding as 'standard'  :(

It would be excellent if colour-coding could be standardised. However, as we all know about this 'industry', if getting the colour-coding message across was the only issue, life would be so good.