[bluez]

I think shake and vac might be taken.....que the music

[Alistair@AWC]

Nat,

How about 'Gutter Sucker'............it sounds better than 'Gutter Vac' anyway!

[Nathanael Jones]

I'd prefer to stick with "Gutter Vac" to be honest. I've sent Glyn a nice e-mail to see if we can't work things out for everyone's benefit.

[Gleaming windows]

Err, how do you avoid falling out with Mr Touchy from Omnipole?

This issue will be dealt with by our legal advisors
Under EC law our trade names are protected across Europe

What a clown!

[EZclean]

 

wa-hey

[Nathanael Jones]

Did you get my e-mail Glyn?

[wizard]

I guess I will will take omni/pole vac of my shopping list them!

[wizard]

Glynn have you asked MATHEW IF YOU MAY PUT HIS IMFORMATION ON THIS SITE IT IS DATA PROTECTED

[Nathanael Jones]

Err, how do you avoid falling out with Mr Touchy from Omnipole?

This issue will be dealt with by our legal advisors
Under EC law our trade names are protected across Europe

A bit harsh Glyn (as usual!)!

On the issue of "gutter vac" if omnipole do have the name copyrighted is it ethical to use it?

My personal view (Though Glyn doesn't seem to share it) is that this logo being used would bring the whole range of gutter vac machines to the forefront in more peoples minds and would actually result in more business for him as well,...
But if Glyn really wants to object then I'll happily change the wording. How about "Reach and Vac"?

Why change the wording? Lots of companies try scare tactics regarding intellectual property.

Have you already asked him what exactly is his intellectual property?

Although I do respect other people’s intellectual property, the opposite of this is people or companies who try to falsely over enforce a particular IP for there benefit only.

I don't want to cause a big fuss on forum for all to see, and I really didn't mean for this thread to end up being a "Lets knock Glyn" thread.
I've e-mailed Glyn about this. Hopefully things can be worked out without any further fuss. How I proceed depends on his reply.

[wizard]

YOU TELL HIM TO CHILL.VAC AND ALL.THESE CHAPS ARE HIS POTENTIAL CUSTOMES OR HAS HE FORGOTTEN THIS VITAL FACT.

[Glyn H]

Use some imagination for once think up with your own name for your DIY gutter cleaning systems I do not give permission for the use of Omni Vac, GutterVac Gutter Vac or any other name that is associated with our products.

Nathanael's other choice in his email was "Gutter Hoover"
use that one as a logo and see how long it is before a High Court summons for "Trading off" appears on your door mat.

I cannot understand why many you do not see using other peoples IP such as photographs, names, logos etc. is theft in the eyes of the law.

[Nathanael Jones]

I've just Googled "Gutter Vac" and it seems that MANY MANY people are using the term freely,...

You may be in the same position as Hoover Glyn,.. too little too late to keep the phrase to yourself?

[matt]

 

[matt]

I've just Googled "Gutter Vac" and it seems that MANY MANY people are using the term freely,...

You may be in the same position as Hoover Glyn,.. too little too late to keep the phrase to yourself?

how about " Nutter Sac "

[matt]

Err, how do you avoid falling out with Mr Touchy from Omnipole?

thats funny aswell

[Nathanael Jones]

Just searched here:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/

and here:
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/cntc

Found no trademark/ trade name/ IP registration,.....

[Gleaming windows]

So what trading names do you use that in your opinion no-one else has any right to use?

What about OMNIPOLE?

That is a serious question Glyn, as Omnipole Uk is dissolved, therefore its up for grabs, someone on here could take that, then you'd be up the creek with just a gutter-vac to paddle with  



http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/c83b4f6c4a784cc2ea90cdd0f0db8bc7/compdetails

[Glyn H]

The total lack of understanding and ignorance regarding Company registration,Company names, Company law, Intelectual property, trade marks, patents of this site is astounding.

" Benny Hill"

Glyn if you managed somehow to wangle a high court summons to land on someones doormat then you'd be the one laughed out of court by the judge.

That statement illustrates you obviously either have NO experience of how the courts in this country work, or have forgotten how they work, or are trying to bull$h!t or are just ignorant of the whole procedure

This refers to the sugestion by Nathanael Jones that you can use the term Gutter Hoover and you all honestly believe that Hoover will allow you to do this without taking action.

Nathanael wrote

I've just Googled "Gutter Vac" and it seems that MANY MANY people are using the term freely,...

You may be in the same position as Hoover Glyn,.. too little too late to keep the phrase to yourself?

As their are over 500 GutterVac users in the UK alone its no suprise that the term is found on websites.


Yet more misinformation from Benny Hill

That is a serious question Glyn, as Omnipole Uk is dissolved, therefore its up for grabs

Omnipole Systems Ltd owns all the rights, intelectual property, trade names, patents,goodwill of Omnipole (UK) Ltd
So whether Omnipole (UK) Ltd is trading or disolved makes not a jot of difference.



Whilst you are all playing at being legal experts I suggest you look up "trading off Action" and take note of the penalties.

[Clive McDonald]

I don't think it was very respectfull calling someone mr touchy, i'm a guild member, but as far as i know glyn has never had a go at us. Why goad him just for the sake of it?

I thought the guild was above all the silly CIU personal attack stuff. It's one thing to copy and DIY his concept, but to ridicule him and nick his name (if gutter vac is his) is another.

Why make an enemy out of someone you don't need to?

[ronnie paton]

slum he has ridiculed many on here and here is an example according to his lordship if your willing to do say a gutter ajob for £300 and some one would do it for £900 your not running a roper business?

i canfind the link to the post if needed.


he has a lack ofrespect for people and things he is above and better than mot.

me my self im dissapointed has i wanted a GUTTER VAC buthis attituide stinks