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Dean Taberner

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How did you start off window cleaning?
« on: September 06, 2009, 07:41:15 pm »
Here it is Cozy ;D ;D

Seriously,

Just wondering how you all came about starting in the job?

I started working for my old man on the ladders 12 year ago,

Left working with him in early 2002 after a fall out and went through several not so good jobs before deciding to have a go of it on my own in jan 2003.

How about you guys?
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

cozy

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 07:45:29 pm »
PMSL, thought you would at least give me an hour or two to find my old post ;D ;D

PCNW

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 07:47:35 pm »
I worked for my brother on a large round from being 16 (2005). In 2007 i got a weekend round by canvassing and thought i would be better on my own as i thought it wouldnt be so hard to run a business. Left in 2008ish on my own and stuggled abit but started to build a good round until my brother sold up later 2008 so i bought what work i could off him but all the customers remembered me. I run the business for just over a year gaining vital business knowledge until i sold most of the work 2 months ago - Hard to let go but it was a great experiance

martinsadie

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 07:50:53 pm »
when i was still at school i had to help my dad collect on fridays and after i left i had to help him clean old biddie homes and kids homes on saturdays used to hate it,when i got into the beer on fridays i jacked in he wasnt happy,then when i was 21 and married with child on way i went back with him on saturdays for extra money i found at that point i enjoyed it  ;D

cozy

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 07:59:36 pm »
Left the army in 85 and stayed in Germany. Went driving trucks around Germany till I found 1 going from Tunisia /Germany, fantastic pay and long waiting times in Tunisia. So could doss on the beach all day for a few days every trip.

Did that for a couple of years, then my mate had started doing milkround/window cleaning round for the squaddies. Went out with him a day to have a look, didn't believe the stories of what he earned. What a shock I got.

Next day, typed out some leaflets with his help, went calling a couple of days later, bang, a round set up. Got all big headed when it took off and got "Mr Holliwood" about my turnover. Then branched out into comercial. That's when I started to see what work was. 2 and 3 thousand square meter schools etc.

Started to get bored and let my domestics fall away. Lost interest after 12 years and went back to driving trucks all over europe. Then realised what I had before and started again from scratch a few years ago. Best decision i ever made when you look at the economy now.

Love being my own boss and beating the dozy competition over here. They still think the future is in big com' jobs. The Germans aren't geared up to build domestic rounds like you lot, so makes it easier for me to get them.

All together, I have been in this game about 16 years full time and always had kept some custies even when I was driving, did them at weekends etc. I am now unemployable, and it's great.

I used to have a big chip on my shoulder about being a window cleaner for the first years,but now I don't give a toss about all these IT bods I meet on the job as I go through their offices cleaning windows. I think some still think, "Oh W/C, must be too stupid to do anything else". Yep, too stupid, but home usually by 3 and bank manageress (1 Of my custies by the way) thinks my business  is healthy.

It would have helped me a great deal if the internet was up and running when I started. Things like this forum help me realise that you lot are out there the same as me. We all go through the same crap as all the others, some more some less, but it helps alot to read what you bods put on here.

There you go mate :)


PCNW

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 07:59:46 pm »
At first i hated it but once i got out of the lazy routine and away from my playtation i started to notice some enjoyment

John Walker

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2009, 08:14:51 pm »
Helped a guy out 40 years ago but didn't see the potential.  Ended up in a well paid but highly stressed job. 

Was cleaning my own windows a couple of years back and a neighbour said i could do his - I laughed but he said he was serious - so did his and then another neighbours and so on.  Saw the potential and safety of WFP and went down that road very quickly.  Recently redundant and now WFPing full time.  Early days but building nicely.  Can't take on too much - I'm just turned 62 but enjoy every minute of it - why didn't i have the nerve to take the plunge years ago when I was younger and fitter.  Wouldn't have had the stress take it's toll on my health then. 

Too late now - onwards and upwards - but not on ladders!!!
BaxWalker Window Cleaning

PCNW

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 08:25:03 pm »
It isnt that stress free being younger lol Sometimes i felt like i was on my own with some massive problems other times i got on with it - I found that coping with the pressure of business was all i needed to do so now im more calmer and calculating but you learn from mistakes thats the beauty of it

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 08:34:59 pm »
Thought about it a few years ago, but a job came up that was good paying at the time so went for that (something i knew how to do).

That job came to a standstill in Feb this year. I tried my hardest to get a job doing anything but just couldnt get any work. I got turned down straight for a job at McDonalds without a reason and i was refused an interview for a job filling sandwiches in one of these factorys because i had 'no experience' of making or filling sarnis other than making my kids lunch every morning.

A month on, still no job and £1500 short for the rent & bills. My wife and i looked into starting our own business.

 First was office furniture (was the job i lost in Feb), that was just too hard to get going and the reason i didnt have a job was because people werent buying office furniture.

Next came the idea of a gardening business. Great idea, but i dont know a plant from a weed and the longer term wouldnt be so good money wise come winter.

Next was an idea i had about 18 months prior. I had looked into window cleaning WFP style and liked it (it was this forum how i learnt back then) I researched this site, google and youtube for pretty much 3 days solid with only a few hours kip each night and came to the conclusion that i was going to be a window cleaner !

I priced up the BASIC kit i would need to get going and begged my mum to lend me the money, which she agreed to. Before buying the equipment, i needed customers. So i went out for 2 weeks day and night with my book to quote people with, 500 leaflets i had made up with the money i borrowed.

Customers who said yes were told there would be a 2 week wait because of getting my kit, but all were ok with that. Once i had my first 30 i went out and cleaned them by day and knocked / dropped leaflets by night and so on.

The beginning was a stressfull time and i nearly packed it in a few times because of water issues. My wife gave me a swift kick up the arse when i was ready to jack it in by syaing fine, go work in a factory for someone who tells you when you can eat, smoke and pee. And reminded me of times when i came home with horror storys. I hated her for what she was saying to me at the time, but looking back now im so glad she did.

Im just going into my 6th month as a window cleaner and im so happy. Ive worked though problems of not producing enough water, i can now afford to get rid and replace those customers that are just a PITA. Ive just had 9 days off due to my vehicle die'ing and finding another one. But its not so bad and ill be caught up in a couple of weeks.

Window cleaning has transformed the quality of my life aswell as my familys. I can take my kids to school in the morning and pick them up. I get to come home at dinner so i can have food with my wife. I work 4 days a week and pick when i want to do conservatory / fascia extras.

Its not just a case of cleaning windows and your done. People dont see the water / equipment / papaerwork side. But adding all that together i wouldnt swop this job for the world.

I LOVE WINDOW CLEANING :)
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

cozy

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 08:39:18 pm »
good post

R W C

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 08:39:55 pm »
nice one ww

suds window service

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 08:47:53 pm »
Thought about it a few years ago, but a job came up that was good paying at the time so went for that (something i knew how to do).

That job came to a standstill in Feb this year. I tried my hardest to get a job doing anything but just couldnt get any work. I got turned down straight for a job at McDonalds without a reason and i was refused an interview for a job filling sandwiches in one of these factorys because i had 'no experience' of making or filling sarnis other than making my kids lunch every morning.

A month on, still no job and £1500 short for the rent & bills. My wife and i looked into starting our own business.

 First was office furniture (was the job i lost in Feb), that was just too hard to get going and the reason i didnt have a job was because people werent buying office furniture.

Next came the idea of a gardening business. Great idea, but i dont know a plant from a weed and the longer term wouldnt be so good money wise come winter.

Next was an idea i had about 18 months prior. I had looked into window cleaning WFP style and liked it (it was this forum how i learnt back then) I researched this site, google and youtube for pretty much 3 days solid with only a few hours kip each night and came to the conclusion that i was going to be a window cleaner !

I priced up the BASIC kit i would need to get going and begged my mum to lend me the money, which she agreed to. Before buying the equipment, i needed customers. So i went out for 2 weeks day and night with my book to quote people with, 500 leaflets i had made up with the money i borrowed.

Customers who said yes were told there would be a 2 week wait because of getting my kit, but all were ok with that. Once i had my first 30 i went out and cleaned them by day and knocked / dropped leaflets by night and so on.

The beginning was a stressfull time and i nearly packed it in a few times because of water issues. My wife gave me a swift kick up the arse when i was ready to jack it in by syaing fine, go work in a factory for someone who tells you when you can eat, smoke and pee. And reminded me of times when i came home with horror storys. I hated her for what she was saying to me at the time, but looking back now im so glad she did.

Im just going into my 6th month as a window cleaner and im so happy. Ive worked though problems of not producing enough water, i can now afford to get rid and replace those customers that are just a PITA. Ive just had 9 days off due to my vehicle die'ing and finding another one. But its not so bad and ill be caught up in a couple of weeks.

Window cleaning has transformed the quality of my life aswell as my familys. I can take my kids to school in the morning and pick them up. I get to come home at dinner so i can have food with my wife. I work 4 days a week and pick when i want to do conservatory / fascia extras.

Its not just a case of cleaning windows and your done. People dont see the water / equipment / papaerwork side. But adding all that together i wouldnt swop this job for the world.

I LOVE WINDOW CLEANING :)
good on yer .all the best suds

suds window service

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2009, 08:51:10 pm »
daughters first day of big school tomorrow,so asked the boss if i could have a late start even though we vvvv busy?
  I thought about it for  a second and said yes ;D

LWC

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2009, 08:55:35 pm »
My dad got me into it when i was on my summer holidays in school 8/9 years ago on ladders eek. And my grandad did it. Following suit really ;D

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2009, 09:05:50 pm »
I must say, without my wife getting me work when it started getting busy and kicking me up the arse in the beginning that i wouldnt have a customer base that i have today. Plus she does ALOT if not all of the sorting, confirmations and book stuff.

Shes an absolute darling and im a very lucky guy.
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

Murdie window cleaning

  • Posts: 654
Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 09:07:25 pm »
daughters first day of big school tomorrow,so asked the boss if i could have a late start even though we vvvv busy?
  I thought about it for  a second and said yes ;D

and that is a big reason I'm starting out, that and not working weekends unless I realy want or need to and not working 50-60 hours per week and if I am working that many hours I'll be making a mint or I'm crap at cleaning windows

suds window service

  • Posts: 1151
Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2009, 09:46:55 pm »
daughters first day of big school tomorrow,so asked the boss if i could have a late start even though we vvvv busy?
  I thought about it for  a second and said yes ;D

and that is a big reason I'm starting out, that and not working weekends unless I realy want or need to and not working 50-60 hours per week and if I am working that many hours I'll be making a mint or I'm crap at cleaning windows
that was me 2 years ago :o.......go for it mate

 best of luck suds

Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 08:23:58 am »
I had a baptism of fire really.  W/cing was a back to the wall job for me.  Isn't it strange sometimes how the best decisions we make are the ones where we have fewer choices.
I had three redundancies in two years (early 90s).  Not a sniff of a job.  Had an old Datsun hatchback with a dodgy engine and next to no money.  Luckily, my outgoings were much less then.
So i borrowed a ladder from an out of trade plumber I knew.  Asked a few questions of a W/C I knew who had been doing it for years - and off I went knocking on doors.  Started at zero turnover.  I was literally knocking  one day for a bit of work the next day.  The next time around, I put the three or four bits of work in a particular area and did them on a single day - and so it went on.  My income was so low at first I was claiming unemployment benefit (totally legally) as my NI contributions were from being an employee.  The key to it was that I would have given up W/Cing if I were offered a job.  Once I started to see a bit of what was possible, I signed off and registered the business.  My outgoings were so low back then that I could break even in life by doing £100 a week in W/Cing (until my car needed a service).
Nine months later, I borrowed the money for my first van (a Nissan Sunny) and kept that for 9 years.
After a while, I realised that some of the work for which I had once been so grateful was actually a liability.  The prices were too lousy to sell it so I gave it away to someone.
The way I started up was what some on here call a cowboy.  I had no teacher (no internet in early 90s either).  All I had to go on were a couple of conversations with a W/C who dictated a small list of supplies and gave a few verbal tips.  It was a few months before anyone (another W/C who also worked the same area as me) showed me how to use the tools well.  I watched him with mouth hung open.  He was so fast it was like watching an octopus working.  I went out with him for a couple of part days.  It was an education in window cleaning.  When I first saw him walking towards me, I thought he was going to have a go at me for working (his patch".  Instead, he told me that the way I was using the ladder could kill me if I wasn't careful and showed me a better way (no WFP around then).  He showed me a better way of W/Cing.  Then it started tipping down with rain so we went around his flat for a coffee.

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2009, 09:08:41 am »
Good on ya Leapstallbuildings :)
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

Craig - CW Window Cleaning

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Re: How did you start off window cleaning?
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2009, 11:13:03 am »
I started window cleaning in Jan 1999 after leaving work as a baker, got the job by means of my sisters best friend whose husband was a w/c'er but he fell of his ladder breaking his leg. So I drove the car did the upatairs work while he hopped around doing the lower one's.
Eventually his leg was better and he offered me to work so we canvassed more work, I got 60% of the takings.(on a separate round from his normal one)
I got fed up working for 60% and started up my own round which didnt go down well...with him

Anyway I got a nice little round up and running bought a nice wooden titan ladder and bombed around in my Opel Manta
I used typed up leaflets I made at the local library, and an ad in the yellow pages.
I did have a break from w/c'ing and done HGV drving for a few years and am now back with WFP and trad equipment and loving it...
Its the chase of getting more work  and being able to see my family more which drives me on

craig