[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

You fellaa`s like myself`who use Wagtails.What rubbers do you use?
It`s the older style Ẁagtails`I have.Unger,Sorbo and Ettore ones,the
`dimple in the middle of the channel just won`t hold em`in position
Like they used to for some reason.Thanks for replies,


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[macmac]

You could try & wedge the rubber in place with something pushed between rubber & channel.

[SteveAllan]

i use unger soft mate, just get a punch and hammer down the dent a bit more (gently of course) jobs a good un

[Richard Holt]

What's the deal with these "Wagtails"?

They don't look to be all that.

I've seen the video online, and apart from having a nice looking bit of skirt in it, they just dont look all that.

(looked like something you'd buy in a pound shop?)

Just my opinion

[jonnyald]

hey dilly , the wagtail fipper"s  the Best thing i ever bought for windowing. granted it hasnt any shiny chrome  but its just so quick   .  the wagtail rubber is pricey ,but  i only change it after at least a week  cos its  long lasting .   

[ftp]

Got one in my van and hate the thing.


Good for inside conservatory roofs, other than that I haven't found a use for it.

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

ftp,with the day you’ve had today,I would`nt believe a word
Ya say.! Anyway I put in a new Pulex `soft`rubber and it grips
A treat.Must be just one of those `batches`.

P.S. For anyone who don`t like their `Wagtails`just send them
On to myself.

P.P.S. Ya can make ya own `Flipper`easily from an old style
Ẁagtail`.The Combies ar`nt made anymore.


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[jefftemperley]

i left mine in my van for 2 mths as just couldnt get on with it,

however ive used on some shop fronts and got the hang of it, and its a fantastic tool. just done a builders clean at a new waitrose store and it came into its own

all i can say is persevere as when youve cracked it you wont use anything else for trad

[Ian_Giles]

For trad work I use the wagtail flipper and wouldn't use anything else, it is a terrific tool once you get the hang of it, and you also get used to using way less water too, so much so that when I do use some of the ordinary stuff, I really hate the slops you get....

I use ordinary Ettore rubbers (soft) in place of the wagtail ones....they last me several weeks minimum, but then I am mostly WFP of course, although when 100% trad a rubber would last me 3 or 4 weeks easily.

Ian

[macmac]

The flipper is the best trad tool I ever purchased! Granted, it looks like something you'd see on QVC but in this case looks are very decieving!! Infact, it sat in my van for a while as I was convinced it wouldn't be any good!  This is the future of trad! All you have to do is master it, just like you would any other tool, it's a different technique/way of working. Personally, I don't use it on a pole, just by hand. I have modified a different applicator sleeve for when I require a wetter or longer working time between dips & use the original for insides etc. where I want less water retension in the pad. It's just soooooooooooo much easier & quicker with a flipper for me. More reach, any angle on demand, less drag, less soap is required, rubber (any rubber) lasts for ages & even with chewed up edges it hardley ever leaves any lines behind, it makes a better job too!!

I find though, that a smaller flipper is rquired to the equivelent squeegee it replaces. i.e. I use a 12" flipper where I used a 14" squeegee & so on. This may just be a personal thing to me though.

It's a pain to fit in a BOAB & no good for georgians IMO but all the other benefits way outweigh these minor niggles.

The new "blue ribbond" flipper will cure the BOAB issue though & this will be my next purchase. I'm also gonna modify a porcupine pad to fit the flipper for really dirty glass, initial cleans etc.

Anyone tried the blue ribbond flipper who has also used the original one???

[timon]

lidi is doing a two mops   heads for thier window cleaning tool .ideal to use with wagtail flipper cut two size and comes with velco  on it .the price is £2 for two mops.cant be bad.and yes it does work well.

[macmac]

lidi is doing a two mops   heads for thier window cleaning tool .ideal to use with wagtail flipper cut two size and comes with velco  on it .the price is £2 for two mops.cant be bad.and yes it does work well.

Do they hold more water than the wagtail pad?

[L.J.Thorpe]

is wagtail rubber still out of stock at wcw

as for using them i must admit i nearly stomped mine the first time i used it
but after a couple of hours practice on windows at home it was excellent
just different
my 10 year old daughter found it easier to use than me (kept pesting to have a go while watching me get it wrong  :) just forget how to use a normal blade and go with it

[macmac]

I use pulex standard (hard) in mine. It works far better in the flipper than  a normal squeegee. Probably because it's being constantly lubricated as the pad preceeds it.

[jonnyald]

lidi is doing a two mops   heads for thier window cleaning tool .ideal to use with wagtail flipper cut two size and comes with velco  on it .the price is £2 for two mops.cant be bad.and yes it does work well.

Do they hold more water than the wagtail pad?
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I USE  a trimmed down  red/white pulex microtiger as the pad -   i trimmed it down so that about only 1/4 inch fibre length -  this is so that itll still flip  and isnt too heavy  as using it all day

[TonyD]

I've just bought the Blue Ribbon new flipper, only been cleaning for a month or so, so I'm no expert but I'll give my view anyway.
Initially I thought WTF is this as I opened it, it looked cheap and fragile and just, well.......cheap and nasty.   BUT, after practicing for a few windows at home I realised it's not cheap and fragile, it's just lightweight and designed to do what it needs to do.  Within 10 minutes I was really getting into it, and think I'll be sticking with it.   So for anyone that buys one don't be put off by the actual design and build, it works and works well IMO.

I also tried it on a small shop window today and was able to do the whole window fan stylee because of the pivot on a small pole without needing the steps from the van.  I detailed the edges with a m/f secured on the pole with elastic band.

[timon]

the lidi  pad holds more water then the wagtail pad does.plus  flips over better .

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Simon,do you mean the Lidl Àquapur ?
That’s more like the Ettore `Back-flip`.
I think.It`s a blue colour the one I mean
Thanks

[macmac]

Right, I'm going to lidl later, can anyone tell me what to look for i.e. are the pads sold seperate or attatched to something, what colour etc.

[jonnyald]

i saw the lidl pads today in my local.  they are sold as a pair and are blue n white ,   look just like an opened out scrubber .    flat material with a rubbery backing coating