[BRETT]

looking at setting up but only using the dry carpet cleaning method so as to market the "one minute dry time"been looking at either the host freestlye or the envirodri machine and products i am new to this line of business so would really be thankfull for any advice on the best products for this type of cleaning.anyone else concentrate on dry cleaning only thanks in advance guys

[daysdeepclean]

In my opinion, most people tend to go HWE as it's the most commonly used method. I offer (to a small degree and only recently) "Dry Carpet Cleaning" but no one has ever shown any interest. I've recently started LM (Low Moisture) cleaning too using just the Oreck Orbitor.... Again though, customers tend to dismiss this method and opt for the HWE...

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

Brett

People are not that bothered how long their carpets take to dry, within reason.

They are more interested in it being deep down clean and any spots and stains removed, again within reason.

You will struggle to meet that criteria using a dry compound cleaning system.


Steve

[gwrightson]

As all have said so far , waste of time.

handy to in certain situations and that about it.

i still have some sebo dry powder kicking about some where from when i bought the misses a sebo.

geoff

[John Kelly]

This system gets knocked time and time again. HWE is always going to outperform a dry system however I have customers who only use this system and get excellent results on relatively clean carpets. Also the word dry is very powerful, haven't Chem Dry built up a 5 billion$ worldwide business on that word even though they use wet.
Notice I said relatively clean carpets. That is the secret, market to the customers who are willing to pay more for a dry system and most of them don't have minging carpets. One customer is now franchising his business and has I think sold 9-10 so far.

[JS2]

Brett

Do a search on this site and you will find some good comparisons in relation to those who do mainly 'dry' (actually 'damp') granule cleaning and those who are just HWE.  HWE does appear to be, by far, the most preferred method due to its versatility.  Nonetheless, some members have had good results with dry cleaning in certain cases - read the posts.

Pete (JS2)

[derek west]

theres a big market out there if you market it right, after all, they wouldn't make it if it didn't work! right?
derek

[stu_thomson]

Ive lost count of the number of customers who have asked how I clean carpets, as the last guy "put some powder down and then vaccumed it up"
customer not happy!

more than impressed with hwe though (especially with T/M)

stu

[JS2]

It all depends on how you go about it.  If it really cleans the carpet, and you're sure of this, then this must be satisfactory by all accounts.  But leaving a poor result in any shape or form can be criticised.  My experience of cleaning 'dry' is that it works 'to a point', but others may a lot better at getting a good result than me.

Pete (JS2)

[Simon Gerrard]

Dry compund cleaning is a maintenance cleaning system and NOT an out and out cleaning system. If you're planning on cleaning dirty carpets then forget dry compound cleaning. HWE is the only way to go.

Don't forget, if you're planning on starting a successful carpet cleaning business, you will be totally reliant on your customers recommending you to their friends and family and of course, have you back again in the future. If you offer a system that cannot clean dirty carpet you aren't going to build up anything more than a string of ex-customers.
Think again, is my advise!

Simon

[JS2]

Simon

I fundamentally agree with you.  I have always considered the 'dry' granule approach as a maintenance operation and especially suitable for sustaining the cleanliness of an initially clean carpet.  The only doubt I have is that I've actually seen relatively dirty carpets positively revived by the dry method (perhaps uneconomically by virtue of the the quantity of compound used/re-used in the cleaning process).  This makes me believe that a decidedly deeper-than-maintenance clean is actually possible.

I'll leave the rest to the cleaning science !!

Pete (JS2)

[The Great One]

Dry compund cleaning is a maintenance cleaning system and NOT an out and out cleaning system. If you're planning on cleaning dirty carpets then forget dry compound cleaning. HWE is the only way to go.

Don't forget, if you're planning on starting a successful carpet cleaning business, you will be totally reliant on your customers recommending you to their friends and family and of course, have you back again in the future. If you offer a system that cannot clean dirty carpet you aren't going to build up anything more than a string of ex-customers.
Think again, is my advise!

Simon

That's what everyone thinks, they're wrong.

[JS2]

Hi Martin

You have championed the dry method and I/we know that you've had good success for a long time.  Hence this supports my last post.

Pete (JS2)

[Simon Gerrard]

Martin,

That's what everyone thinks, they're are wrong?
Surely if dry compound cleaning was as good as you clearly think it is, then why does everyone think it is rubbish and chose other, far more effective cleaning systems?

Simon

[spencer davies]

I have a Hydramaster TM, low moisture system and use an Envirodry for agitation and dry cleaning, I was not a great fan of the dry cleaning system, but used in conjunction with the Gen 4, good results are delivered, although the micro sponge cost does make the process more expensive than I would like. If you agitate the sponges in with a basic machine like a duo, the results will be poor imo.

Regards



S

[John Kelly]

As I've said I have a franchise customer who just uses this method. I asked how they were so succesful and they said the majority of people using the system don't do it right.
First of all they don't tackle minging carpets because common sense tells you it would be a waste of time.
They pre-vac and pile lift thoroughly before misting on a citrus pre spray. Then the granules are applied and worked in. They use the granules until they are happy with the result. This obviously takes more time than HWE and more product cost but they do charge reasonably high prices to cover this. And they get repeat business and lots of referalls. For upholstery they use the Von Shrader machine which incidently I have a truckmount customer who has also bought one of these and now uses it on all his suites, thinks its brilliant.

[The Great One]

Martin,

That's what everyone thinks, they're are wrong?
Surely if dry compound cleaning was as good as you clearly think it is, then why does everyone think it is rubbish and chose other, far more effective cleaning systems?

Simon

Hi Simon

I have used Envirodri solely for 6 years and have done a whole manner of different situations, as we all have. It has proved itself time and again.

I am on a 4 floor, 300m2 + 114 stair job at the moment (nice earner) although not every stain will come out, the results are very good.

Even though I have been solely dry for 6 years I am thinking of getting a wet system, not because dry is bad but because no one system is 'Jesus in a bottle'. Even HWE has limitations, i feel that a professional Cc should have both wet & dry in their arsenal, to cover all situations, besides I am qualified for Trauma so will need a wet system as blood will require it.

The dry/wet debate will rage long after we're both dead.

Regards

Martin

[Amethyst]

Spot on Martin "No one system is Jesus in a bottle" which is why I offer HWE, LM or VLM (Granules).