[Wickerman]

What are the legalities of standing on window ledges. I have just picked up a customer yesterday with a three story building. three flats all with high sash windows. The bottom window opens inward but the top window will only slide up or down. Am I in wrong to be standing out on the ledge? I work on my own.

[GWCS]

working at height regulations 2005

interesting reading..


then again if you not bothered do what you like..  Natural selection and all that.

[Wickerman]

I am interested and I am trying to do everything correctly. I am just not sure of regs hence the question. If I am in the wrong then I will have to tell the customer.

[stephen s]

where abouts are you ?      just so I can come and canvass that area when you fall off.

does that answer your question ?

[Wickerman]

yes it does. Could you be any more condescending please.

[stephen s]

Just being truthful mate,  you know you shouldn't be standing on ledges of that height as it only takes one slip, one mistake and its bye bye Johnny.

No job is worth your life mate so don't do it,  and thats the best advice anyone can give,       as the saying goes  up there for thinking  down there for dancing.

Johnny be good

[Niall McAllister]

I don't think it's entirely condescending.
your basic question is should I stand on a 10 inch ledge with no support, 30 ft off the ground?

best advise is slide the window down do the top half, then slide it back up and do the bottom half.
it will take longer so price accordingly,
or option 2  wfp and goose neck if that is available

[Wickerman]

  Sorry Steven,  I take that back. I just read it the wrong way. I am like everyone else, I want to do a good job and I want to do it right. WFP not an option (yet)

[Gleaming windows]

Have you got family?

[GWCS]

Sorry Steven,  I take that back. I just read it the wrong way. I am like everyone else, I want to do a good job and I want to do it right. WFP not an option (yet)

Johnny - To be fair it still the practise still happens these day, but when i was learning the trade it was common practise.

Putting the ladder up to second floor, climb on and around the foot wide large concrete ledges, around the large brick bay supports holding on by fingertips under the top sash for support. Cleaning one handed whilst the other held on..

But i don't recommend it..

Be safe.. Be happy.

[cybersye]

best advise is slide the window down do the top half, then slide it back up and do the bottom half.
it will take longer so price accordingly,

this is the best way, i am wfp but I have several flats where there is no access for back windows so I do them traditionally that way. be safe, and if you cant then dont do it, theres plenty of easier windows needing to be cleaned.

[Glyn H]

Johnny
No you realy shouldnt stand on a ledge why not subcontract the high work to a local window cleaner with wfp.

[Ravensford]

Johnny,

safest & cheapest way might be to buy a cheap second hand back pack, pole & brush &, just before the windows are due, buy some pure water in containers from a local w/c then trad the rest. Alternatively, as has been mentioned before, sub out all or part of the work.

Hope this helps

[gerard mcmanus]

can you not just turn the top ones in and do it from the inside?

[tomy jackson]

lanyard with proper atachmentes in the brick work ,donky spings to mined /.but its your life go for it ,

[jonnyald]

cant you tie a rope round your waist ? and tie the other end on the leg of the bed , so if you slip you wont fall  the whole way

[daveappleby]

MAD MAD MAD.........

[Ian Lancaster]

Regardless of whether it's legal or not, you have no control over the safety aspect.  If you are using a ladder, you can control how it's set/footed etc and so ensure the safety.  Standing on a ledge that someone else has built is putting your faith in an unknown situation.

How do I know?  In 1977 I stood on an upstairs window sill and it collapsed under me. Unknown to me it had been broken previously, and the cowboy who repaired it just rebuilt it with cement, so any weight (even a flower pot) would have been enough to cause it to break again.

I fell 18 feet and broke both heel bones and both ankle joints.  I still have deformed feet and walk with a bad limp.

At least I'm still alive, and ever since I have taken my personal safety very seriously.

[tomy jackson]

from in side or out you has to have a lanrard a tached to the bilding l,so if he falls itl be moor work for us ,if your daft enuf dont let us stop you

[Gleaming windows]

if your daft enuf dont let us stop you

  fantastic.