right, well Alvechurch is barely Birmingham..more Bromsgrove or Redditch really, despite it's postcode. but that's not the point. 20 feet...100 feet...why oh why are the messages not geting through...get off the flippin' ladders...I honestly don't know why some people are still risking their health, their business and their Families future welfare by doing stupid things that threaten everything they hold dear...is it just me ? C'mon stop being tight...invest and get Pro...now.