[cozy]

thats what the forums about-asking advice-the reason im here is im trying another method of canvassing LEAFLETS . was asking how you guys canvass and what areas you look for if you say housing estates are easy pickings

But you must know this, apparently you put a round together and sold it for 30 K and now you need advice from us how to put a round together

[Platinum NW]

im asking about your canvassing methods if you can read............

[davids3511]

Guys, why do you bite?

[cozy]

im asking about your canvassing methods if you can read............

You must know this, you have successfully sold a round a round for 30K, you now own 2 businesses and are seeking advice from humble window cleaners, how to build a round?

[Platinum NW]

im asking about your canvassing methods if you can read............

You must know this, you have successfully sold a round a round for 30K, you now own 2 businesses and are seeking advice from humble window cleaners, how to build a round?

Where have i asked you about building a round? I asked what your canvassing methods were- From what GCWS said you better of starting low and bumping prices up-(GCWS) SOMEONE WHO GETS IT

[cozy]

After posting 100 leaflets how many replies would you expect ? I found i cover an estate much faster with leaflets than knocking.

Above is your question.......I don't know, but you are the guy, who built and sold a round for 30K and you have construction company and now you want to know how many leaflets to drop. What's wrong with this picture?

[cozy]

Bet you are related to Davo or Ewan.....There must be a nest round here somewhere.

[Blue Frog Systems]

Leaflet drops on there own are not much good where I am. You would have to drop tens of thousands to get a good responce, go out and knock if you want a round

[Davo]

Bet you are related to Davo or Ewan.....There must be a nest round here somewhere.

Why are you having a pop at me?

You make alot of presumptions fella, you should stick to giving out good advice instead of trying to be a clever  ****.

Mark

[aiminvestor]

Leaflet drops on there own are not much good where I am. You would have to drop tens of thousands to get a good responce, go out and knock if you want a round

I would have thought Kocking first, then leave a leaflet if there is no reply, and make a note to return later and refer to the leaflet.

[R W C]

Leaflet drops on there own are not much good where I am. You would have to drop tens of thousands to get a good responce, go out and knock if you want a round

I would have thought Kocking first, then leave a leaflet if there is no reply, and make a note to return later and refer to the leaflet.

So how do you go kocking, is this legal 

[TonyD]

Leaflets are said to have a 1% response rate.  BUT, if you're marketing a service that is already saturated (ie- in that area most have someone who does a round there) then that response is going to drop significantly to around 0.

[lee09]

We have a quality guy here. Thick ain't the word.
So your going to go onto estates, undercut the crrent guys and then bang the prices up?
Under cuttintg does not make you friends in any business. ( I know we are not your real friends but you are asking for help.) Also to bang up your price's up you will lose the work you have robbed from the guy's you are asking for help from.
Good luck

[GWCS]

the trick with flyering estates is that you have to keep at it like drop 8+ times in the year - people will go for anyone until the realise their window cleaner has gone AWOL.

As they keep seeing your flyer then get the idea you are regular. People also get flyer blindness, and just bin flyers without even looking at them.

A lot of people just forget to call, so get reminded to call when you flyer again - i do have one customer who kept forgetting even thou i dropped 6 flyers!! It was only when i saw them washing their car one Saturday afternoon we got chatting!

So if you can - go door knocking! If your too busy then get someone to do it for you.

If your like me, and dont like to door knock and prefer to flyer, then stick with that. But it will be a lot slower intake - although more expensive on flyers.

However, I have found in my experience that the most reliable customers i have are all by flyering, because they have made the effort to actually phone and arrange it - the ones i door knocked have been un reliable and just "go with it" perhaps cos i do next door or something.


Oh and BTW i have never said go in low and put prices up. Someone has obviously mis-read my original post  :

[TonyD]

Yeah but i went in with a good price - Like GCWS said the estates im looking on now has around 4 window cleaners so im best undercutting them - getting the custom then bumping the prices up after a few cleans.
Wanted to ask how everyone else canvassed

That's worrying if that's how you operate. I'm based not far at all from you.  You live on Windle Hall Drive don't you ?  Is this you I've just found on Yell.com down the road from me - Platinum Exterior Cleaning Window Cleaners   
Tel: 07835 894874| 125, Windle Hall Drive, St. Helens, Merseyside WA10 6QA   Or is that someone else ?

If you're planning on undercuitting me and stealing my business then at least I know where to look.  I also run a local handyman/building maintenance service, my website is in my signature.  What is your construction company called ?

[Platinum NW]

Yeah but i went in with a good price - Like GCWS said the estates im looking on now has around 4 window cleaners so im best undercutting them - getting the custom then bumping the prices up after a few cleans.
Wanted to ask how everyone else canvassed

That's worrying if that's how you operate. I'm based not far at all from you.  You live on Windle Hall Drive don't you ?  Is this you I've just found on Yell.com down the road from me - Platinum Exterior Cleaning Window Cleaners   
Tel: 07835 894874| 125, Windle Hall Drive, St. Helens, Merseyside WA10 6QA   Or is that someone else ?

If you're planning on undercuitting me and stealing my business then at least I know where to look.  I also run a local handyman/building maintenance service, my website is in my signature.  What is your construction company called ?

That isnt me - There are 3 platinums in st helens
ME - PLatinum contracts Nw (North West)
Platinum Exterior Window Cleaners
Platinum Cleaning Solutions

My construction company is called Rockware Construction Ltd
We are main contrators based in St Helens. Just doing work at the chamber as well but good news is im on the brink of signing some senior management from Vinci Construction in Warrington.

Were are you based ? Do you have any local rounds ?

[Platinum NW]

We have a quality guy here. Thick ain't the word.
So your going to go onto estates, undercut the crrent guys and then bang the prices up?
Under cuttintg does not make you friends in any business. ( I know we are not your real friends but you are asking for help.) Also to bang up your price's up you will lose the work you have robbed from the guy's you are asking for help from.
Good luck

We are NOT here to make friends, we ARE here to make money - If you want to make friends go to the pub or spend all your time on facebook - Thats business........

[TonyD]

Yeah but i went in with a good price - Like GCWS said the estates im looking on now has around 4 window cleaners so im best undercutting them - getting the custom then bumping the prices up after a few cleans.
Wanted to ask how everyone else canvassed

That's worrying if that's how you operate. I'm based not far at all from you.  You live on Windle Hall Drive don't you ?  Is this you I've just found on Yell.com down the road from me - Platinum Exterior Cleaning Window Cleaners   
Tel: 07835 894874| 125, Windle Hall Drive, St. Helens, Merseyside WA10 6QA   Or is that someone else ?

If you're planning on undercuitting me and stealing my business then at least I know where to look.  I also run a local handyman/building maintenance service, my website is in my signature.  What is your construction company called ?

That isnt me - There are 3 platinums in st helens
ME - PLatinum contracts Nw (North West)
Platinum Exterior Window Cleaners
Platinum Cleaning Solutions

My construction company is called Rockware Construction Ltd
We are main contrators based in St Helens. Just doing work at the chamber as well but good news is im on the brink of signing some senior management from Vinci Construction in Warrington.

Were are you based ? Do you have any local rounds ?

Ahh I was worried when you said you'd undercut other businesses to take work, but that's what an entrepreneur essentially is - "entering and taking".
I'm in St.Helens, and just started window cleaning, so only have a few shops on my books, and in the next few days will be trying to canvas domestic customers.

[Platinum NW]

If your interested in buying work email me
Platinumcontracts@live.co.uk

[cozy]

Bet you are related to Davo or Ewan.....There must be a nest round here somewhere.

Why are you having a pop at me?

You make alot of presumptions fella, you should stick to giving out good advice instead of trying to be a clever  ****.

Mark

You're not even a window cleaner