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Rams75

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Start up cost
« on: July 12, 2009, 11:04:42 pm »
Hi guys.

Please bear with me if I seem like I know nothing. I actually know a lot less.

I already own a small van. I am thinking of purchasing pure water. What is the going rate? I hear a few pence a litre? I figure this is easier in the earlier stages than purifying myself.

So what exactly do i need to set up a wfp system and what sort of prices are we talking?

Im assuming i would need a water tank - thinking 250 litres - how long would this last? And also what would u guesstimate a standard 3 bed semi would use? I know it will vary on how dirty the windows are.

Then i reckon i need a pump a battery a hose and a pole.

What else?

Thanks for any replies and please be gentle.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 11:15:29 pm »
right where do I start lol.
Firstly buying an RO unit will be cheaper for sure.
Purefreedom have startup diy systems for about £600.
a 3 bed semi will take anywhere between 8mins and 12 mins.
I use my pump set at 2ltrs per minute so the amount used on a 3 bed semi will be between 16 and 24ltrs.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Rams75

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 11:18:46 pm »
Thanks Matt

So a 3 bed semi will cost me less than a quid if i buy the water in?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 11:21:05 pm »
Its cheaper to get purefreedom system, as a pump costs £70-£80, flow controller £60-£70, 100 metres of microbore hose and metal reel will be about £150, 18ft pole £100, 250ltr tank £120-£150, DI vessel £30, plus mixed bed resin 25kg=£70-£80.
then you have all the fittings, rectus 21 tap fittings etc £20 for the tap.
then a deep cycle battery, atleast 65 amps per hour £40-£60
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 11:22:37 pm »
If you want to do it like that, I would suggest you buy a backpack then a 17/18ft pole. Backpack start from around £100.
they hold 15-17ltrs.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Rams75

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 11:23:01 pm »
Do you think its an option to buy the water while I try and build the round then buy the purifying kit when things are up and running?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 2942
Re: Start up cost
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 11:26:15 pm »
I would get a backpack system, you will have to buy a pole. so all in all it will cost £200 plus the water from whoever you are getting it off.
I would strongly recommend getting a handheld TDS meter to test the water your buying as it needs to be 100% pure otherwise you will have problems.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Rams75

  • Posts: 17
Re: Start up cost
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 11:28:48 pm »
So the backpack itself would just have sufficient water for one semi?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 11:33:58 pm »
If you buy a 250ltr tank just connect a hose to it and fill up the backpack when you need to.
I'm looking at getting a backpack as some of my customers have difficult access to the rear, and its a nightmare pulling hoses around the back.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Rams75

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 11:35:04 pm »
Thanks for the help Matt.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 11:40:34 pm »
I think the window cleaning warehouse do their own version of a backpack mate.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 08:02:05 am »
Buying pure water is easyer, but you need a local source to get it from. Remember that if that person is on holiday, there is a high chance that you won't be able to get the water unless they have more people working for them.

Cheapest option is a backpack, RO with DI, pole, 25L containers, water storage (ibc tank off ebay), TDS meter, transfer pump.

I started about 4 months ago and was using 25 - 30 litres a house. You use less the more experience you get.

Remember you'll need leaflets knocking together. I use black & white ones.

To make the money up when I started I offered conservatory cleaning and fascia cleaning.

3 storey houses need a bigger pole than 17/20 ft poles which are for your average houses

I worked out a cost for my brother and it was around £800 for a backpack start up including a load of leaflets.

Where abouts in the country are you ?
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Start up cost
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2009, 09:58:05 am »
With £800 you could buy the purefreedom van mounted system DIY of course, and you would still have enough money left over for flyers.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Rams75

  • Posts: 17
Re: Start up cost
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2009, 04:18:38 pm »
Thanks for all the help.

I will look at getting my water tested.

Im in Leeds.

seandyer2003

Re: Start up cost
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2009, 05:03:41 pm »
£15 for a tds meter then u can check yourself :)

Rams75

  • Posts: 17
Re: Start up cost
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 05:35:57 pm »
True Sean

But 15 quid cheaper from a guy Im sseing tomorrow that already owns one :)