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The Great One

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Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« on: June 16, 2009, 10:30:27 am »
Hi

Anyone done these, I have to go and quote for two today and wondered about pricing (to be done at night) products, techniques etc

Kind regards

Martin 8)

Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2009, 05:15:29 pm »
Err yeah, Dont do it!

No its ok, slow I am afraid. Probably take longer than you might think.

Most of it probably steam clean. But you seriously need a industrial steam cleaner and not one from Argos!!!!

Apart from that its your standard chemicals, probably find the ovens / Grill  and kitchen floor the worst. Floor is easy to do.


Pricing well I am sure you know what it entails so make sure you earn out of it. Its hard work!

Dave

The Great One

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2009, 06:29:48 pm »
Hi

These are them

Regards

Martin 8)

Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 07:13:29 am »
Hi Martin,


Yep just as I amagined.

Actually it looks clean. I know when you obviously get there and inspect its messy!

Still recomend a steam cleaner!

Plenty of degreaser and industrial kitchen cleaner.

You looking at a good few days as I take it you are cleaning all the aluminium stff as well.

If not work out time to move everything and clean the walls and buff the floors.

As you know its a competitive market! But we dont go in lower than £250PER DAY.This covers 2 staff, and chemicals. If you need to hire the steam cleaner then you need to compensate.

You local chemical supplier can advise you on the best chemical. Becareful as you need catering cleaning chemicals that are safe as there is food about! So watch out for HSE!!!!!

I would at a guess say you could go in around £1200 mark On some we have priced double this!. However please bare in mind I have not seen the actual state or request of what you are to be cleaning.

Plus prices vary from place to place.

Dave

Dave

Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2009, 11:34:49 am »
I charged £450 for a similar kitchen set up and after 9 hours with 2 of us knocking our pans in, I knew that I should have left it to the professionals.... I'd undercut someone by £500 or more (Not purposefully I hasten to add) and I was well out of my depth. I'll stick to cleaning carpets, upholstery, ovens, cars, patios, kennels.................. ;D

Robert Parry

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 12:17:18 pm »
Commercial kitchens are bl**dy hard graft, dirty and horrible.

You should also ensure that staff hold the relevant training certificates, and your insurance covers this type of work.

Hourly rate between £40 to £55 per hour.

Regards,

Rob
A world of difference....

Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 10:41:11 am »
I charged £450 for a similar kitchen set up and after 9 hours with 2 of us knocking our pans in, I knew that I should have left it to the professionals.... I'd undercut someone by £500 or more (Not purposefully I hasten to add) and I was well out of my depth. I'll stick to cleaning carpets, upholstery, ovens, cars, patios, kennels.................. ;D

Colin,

if you only charge around £450 how would you profit from this.

Labour at £100 per day per person so that £200. chemicals, ovbiously brand varies in price. Lets say £50.

Petrol. £££
Tax££
The list goes on.

And as Robert Parry states, at least £40 per hour. if not on a price!

Dave

Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 04:40:23 pm »
Dave, if you read my post properly you'll see that I don't charge £450, I "DID" charge £450 "ONCE" and don't bother with kitchens at all after that one job! Sod that!

I realised that I'd bitten off more than I could chew and if forced to quote again, I'd go in at £1500 and employ 2 people to help me! If the custy said that was too expensive I'd walk away! Simples!!!! ;D

Thanks for your concern though  :)

The Great One

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 07:53:49 pm »
Hi All

Many thanks for all the advice, really appreciated.

I put a price in and she called today and said 'OUCH'! After taking advice i put in 'above a £1000' and they got some of the guys on site to wash it down.

Hey ho, wasn't going to do it for peanuts.

Thanks again

Regards

Martin 8)

cwmarsham

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 09:25:02 am »
Why is everyone so negative about kitchen cleaning? Yes it is hard graft but no it is not that bad, granted the bulk of my business is kitchen high cleans but with summer holidays we have had a few schools come in for deep clean and one that has had a new extractor put in for a builders clean (believe me new extractors are worse) yes there is a lot to consider (foodsafe degreasers for one) I personally do not use steamers a waste of time by the time you have let the steamer fill up, heat up it takes up to much time not to mention the mess and water everywhere.

I did one the other day two extractors 16 filters to be cleaned no ovens, fryer cleaned, sinks descaled behind a stinky dishwasher all floors, vent, no ceiling under all counters total 14 hours over two days between two men the owner was so happy we got a free lunch  ;)

The picture above doesn't look too bad that looks like a galvanized extractor they are a lot better to clean seriously I know a lot of people hate kitchen cleaning that's why it's such a great market to be in I love it. ;D


daveyc

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 02:57:01 pm »
I used to work in a kitchen like this and we had to go in every so often and deep clean and  was a nightmare especially those floors.Personally I wouldnt recommend doing it unless you really have to or your getting paid well (which I wasnt).As far as commercial kitchens go that one doesnt look too bad.

cwmarsham

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2009, 12:55:05 pm »
I thought I would post these pics in this thread for all you kitchen haters lol If you had seen this one you would have run a mile, It was high clean only, the canopy had not been touched for 4 years! to say the grease was dripping off is an understatement but still it only took 5 hours to clean with the rest off the kitchen it added up to a 9 hour day not a bad days work.  ;D




Bill1903

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2009, 05:19:33 pm »
What methods and products did you use mate?

cwmarsham

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Re: Advice on Commerical Kitchens?
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 11:38:36 pm »
Honestly! Brillo Degreaser, one spray bottle filled with 50% water 50% Brillo on the canopy  eye protection Brillio in your eyes is not fun. Numatic backpack hoover this took all the loose fluff off first. Snapper heads and extendable pole for the outside of the canopy, one small ladder one large ladder, a board with a bit of wood to level it out because 80% of the time you have to stand on the cooker and you don't want to damage that so the board sits over the cooker some brillo pads and that is it. The rest is pure hard graft and make no mistake it is hard graft to get it complete in this time frame but it can be done.

**A tip Keep a catering urn on your van the amount of places I have gone to and there is no hot water. If you look to the right of the last picture you will see my urn when I arrived the boiler was turned off and it took them 3 hours to work out how to turn it on! if I didn't have that urn I would have lost 3 hours work time.**