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Poll

Where is your pump situated?

As low as possible
72.7%
32 (72.7%)
Middle ish
22.7%
10 (22.7%)
High to stop dammage
4.5%
2 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 41

Where do you have your pump?
« on: June 04, 2009, 09:47:57 am »
In response to another thread.

Could you explain why as well.

I have mine as low as possible to stop air getting in.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 04:39:18 pm »
Mine's higher than the tank.

Maybe that's why it's always annoyed me.

After nearly every move of the van I have to unplug it from the hosereel and run it to get the air out.
Otherwise I get hardly any flow and have to have the varistream high and flatten my battery.

I get fed up of having to get air out 10 times a day.

Ian Lancaster

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 04:41:57 pm »
Mine's higher than the tank.

Maybe that's why it's always annoyed me.

After nearly every move of the van I have to unplug it from the hosereel and run it to get the air out.
Otherwise I get hardly any flow and have to have the varistream high and flatten my battery.

I get fed up of having to get air out 10 times a day.


This might sound obvious, but:

Why don't you move it? ::) ???

Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 04:44:26 pm »
You're asking Squeaky remember  ;D

tomy jackson

Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 06:03:00 pm »
mines a buth tank as its convent for me no air locks  ;D ;D ;D i dident vote as its not hier to pevent damage

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 06:12:19 pm »
Best place if you want volume of flow is below the tank but most are self priming and will suck 3ft.
How long is the hose you want to use ?

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 07:48:57 pm »
Mine's higher than the tank.

Maybe that's why it's always annoyed me.

After nearly every move of the van I have to unplug it from the hosereel and run it to get the air out.
Otherwise I get hardly any flow and have to have the varistream high and flatten my battery.

I get fed up of having to get air out 10 times a day.


This might sound obvious, but:

Why don't you move it? ::) ???
Nowhere else easy to put it.

Besides, not sure that's what's causing it.
You can see the bubbles before the tank, so air is building up in the tank all the time.

Pittmonkey

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 08:02:26 pm »
Is the tank vented.
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 08:07:30 pm »
It hasn't got any holes no.
The water would run out. ;D

wfp master

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 08:09:42 pm »
In response to another thread.

Could you explain why as well.

I have mine as low as possible to stop air getting in.
on my bike :)

weetot

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 08:16:25 pm »
Ask a silly question ;D
Never take financial advice from people who have no money!

Pittmonkey

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 09:22:23 pm »
It hasn't got any holes no.
The water would run out. ;D

 ::)

It helps if you can keep the tank vented. (Bet you wish you had a quality camera like mine Squeaky :)
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

ftp

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 09:27:26 pm »
I've just been out and lowered my pump after reading this. Had loads of air locks today when my tank dropped below half way. Maybe my system gulps air when I brake hard. Runs fine 'till mid day then my problems start.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 09:36:31 pm »
It hasn't got any holes no.
The water would run out. ;D

 ::)

It helps if you can keep the tank vented. (Bet you wish you had a quality camera like mine Squeaky :)
Oh right.
Yeah it's got a red plastic vent in the lid.

Window Washers

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 09:40:12 pm »
It hasn't got any holes no.
The water would run out. ;D

 ::)

It helps if you can keep the tank vented. (Bet you wish you had a quality camera like mine Squeaky :)
Oh right.
Yeah it's got a red plastic vent in the lid.
IMHO I recon you have an air leak somewhere, and they do not always leak water  as some people like to think, when the suck happens it can let small air in when it stops small air hole gone no leak, have fun finding it, I would first tighen every clip
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

[GQC] Tim

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 10:31:18 pm »
Pumps always go on the lowest point, like Squeeky's example pointed out, it's airlock galore otherwise.

Name one supplier that doesn't have them at the lowest point in their systems. Says enough.

Another thing that helps is to keep the vacuum side to tank outlet as short as possible. And get a ball valve as a tank outlet. If you are running low on water, turn the stop in between jobs when driving, to prevent air from entering. This is number one cause of airlocks. Make sure to open it again when you stop though!  :D

Pumps suck about 3ft, but if that's filled with air, your going to have trouble.

If air does enter, unplug hosereel, put pump at highest setting, and let the air come out. Then connect hosereel and run like normal.

john tomkins

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 11:45:50 pm »
Name one supplier that doesn't have them at the lowest point in their systems. Says enough.


Cleantech don't :P
www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_44&products_id=88

[GQC] Tim

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 11:55:49 pm »
That's not even worthy to be called a system.  ;D

(Nearly got me there. (just kidding))

Seriously though, the higher the pump, the more likely it is you will get problems.  :)

NWH

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2009, 12:06:09 am »
In the bedroom lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D :P

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Where do you have your pump?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2009, 08:34:47 am »
Pumps always go on the lowest point, like Squeeky's example pointed out, it's airlock galore otherwise.

Name one supplier that doesn't have them at the lowest point in their systems. Says enough.

Another thing that helps is to keep the vacuum side to tank outlet as short as possible. And get a ball valve as a tank outlet. If you are running low on water, turn the stop in between jobs when driving, to prevent air from entering. This is number one cause of airlocks. Make sure to open it again when you stop though!  :D

Pumps suck about 3ft, but if that's filled with air, your going to have trouble.

If air does enter, unplug hosereel, put pump at highest setting, and let the air come out. Then connect hosereel and run like normal.
Ah, I reckon it's about 4ft from my outlet to my pump, and a 2ft rise too.

When I've tidied it a bit I'll take a picture.