[brett walker]

hi guys
             microfibre cloths - alternative to scrim
i have just started to use microfibre on leaded windows and small windows they are leaving a few marks and are hard to ring out could anyone give me any pointers on where i am going wrong . i am washing as directed . many thanks brett

[Davindo Cleana]

for small windows if you wipe harder the marks will clear - it's not always so quick using cloth over squeegee - but i find the chamois to be a better bet on leaded - i.e. dip it, wring it lightly, polish with the scrim, and Bob could very well be your uncle

[gaza]

hi Myself Ive found using a rung out m/fibrer cloth to wash the windows while one is drying wash the other pane,when its done the first pane is nearly dry,dry off the 1st one with a scim
LUVLY JUBBLEY JOB,NOT AFRAID OF LEAD NOW
Mind you what do I know Im only a window cleaner anyone can clean windows so a customer told me last week.Re last weeks posting that got taken off the forum.YOU WILL ALL BE DOING IT THIS WAY CUM MONDAY MORN WAIT AND SEE :

[Ian Rochester]

Brett, we should have no problem using microfibre on leaded, are you using good quality ones (unger)? we bought some a while ago from one of teh cheapo shops and they were rubbish, put me off microfibre all together, changed to Unger ones and they are super in comparison

[Ian_Giles]

I use the Unger ones, very good, they even have the feel of a brand new chamois when dry and clean.
Not so good when they start to get damp, after a certain point they go 'off' very quickly and will leave those tiny lines.
don't let them get to damp, when you seethose very tiny lines appearing, change to a drier one.
If I am using my microfibre it means I am using a sprayer to very lightly mist the glass and then polishing off.
The other way is to use a damp scrim or microfibre to clean the glass, and follow behind with a dry one to polish it dry.
Or you could wait till your microfibre is too damp to polish the glass dry and then let it become your damp cloth.
Otherwise hang it to dry somewhere before it gets too wet.

But mix and match both scrim and microfibre, they both have their uses.

Oh, and don't bother with those pokey little microfibres, they are next to useless, get the large ones.
I haven't tried any other make apart from Unger, so I can't comment on the efectiveness of other brand names

Ian

[bumper]

i use a damp towel.then polish of with dry microfiber, leaves no hairs that scrim use and no greasy marks,use microfiber all time now.

[The Bear]

I use the blue microfibre from Cleantech,

For leaded, i have a spray of water with a small dab of Squeege Off in it,

It really is magical!!

I also edge with microfibre and have found i only use 2 or 3 a day,

i have a small unger for the sills.

Its much quicker for leaded than using fibre then polisher, as the polisher sometimes leaves bits.

Finally beware when the microfibre gets dirty, dont try washing it in the bucket, rather get a clean on and wash them all on a 90 wash.

[brett walker]

  hi guys
                i would like to thank the following people , davindo cleana, gazza, lionheart, ian, bumper, the bear for your advice this has been very helpful,  i am using unger m/fibre i find its worth paying a bit more for decent equipment .  i have learnt a lot of this site such as dog eared my squeegey channel  brilliant thanks  regards brett 

[Michael Monk]

I'm with bumper.. I damp the glass where needed then go over it with a microfiber.. To be honest I use the very cheap microfibers from retail stores here.. I'm in the states.. But I was at SAMS today and saw a HUGE pack of microfibers.. it was 9.88 for 18 very large micros.. it averages abour 54 cents a towel.. Do you guys have a Wholesale outlet in the UK? I'm sure you do.. just wondering.
Michael

[sinbad]

etorree are bigger and thicker than unger ,
and last longer before they are too wet ,
get them from wintecs £7 to the door
use 2 hands for lead and as for squares just wet the first with  the left and do the second wet  and polish the first at the same time with a bone dry one , you know what i mean

[gaza]

Dear Mr Monk:no we still wear flat caps,live in terraced housing ave an outside toilet and use coal fires :of course we have retail outlets,

[Michael Monk]

I had no idea if you guys had wholesale to the public.. some places in the states have it.. and others don't . no reason to  be chapped mate 
I know folks here that have outhouses and use wood fires what you call terraced housing we call a number of things here.. it depends on what part of the country you are from.

[Ian_Giles]

The Ettore ones are bigger? I shall have to give one a try, but are they really larger than the large Unger ones?

Gaza, I think Michael was talking about the difference between wholesale and retail, to use some wholesalers you have to be registered (Bookers for instance).

Michael, those microfibre cloths you mentioned, are they of the same quality and standard as the Ettore and Unger ones? Ettore and Unger are both American Companies so you should know them.
At that price I doubt they are, have you any idea of whatit would cost for either the Unger or Ettore large microfibres over in the States?
It would be interesting to see how much they cost over there.

You can get them for between £5-£7.00 here.

Ian

[bobjarrett]

Been using microfibre rung out , for detailing leaded etc in line with gg4 brilliant , my speed has picked up no end , every now and then give it good rinse under somones tap , if you miss a bit just go over with fibre i find the blue ones great , tried green ones not as good i dont know who makes blue ones , incedently got idea from how to usea scrim from a master ,on a brilliant thread cheers alan .

[Michael Monk]

Ian.. the microfiber clothes I saw at SAMSCLUB here were fantastic quality.. this wholesale club sells only the best products.for what I have spent on 4 smaller microfibers at other retail stores here I could of added a few more $ and purchased the wholesale pack.. this is where you can find them.. I don't know if they ship to the uk.. but they may.. here is the web addy http://samsclub.com these are very thick and well made. great forum Ian.
Michael

[Ian Rochester]

We have always used the large green Unger microfibres but I was at the NFMW&GC show last weekend and bought some of the blue Ettore microfibres as they were cheaper (£3.50) used them for the first time on Thursday after giving them a couple of washes. 

VERDICT - Poor, nowhere near as good as the Unger ones, found there were a lot of fibres coming off and they were sticking to the window and it wasn't just me, the others disliked them as well, reverted back to Unger.

I will give them a couple more washes, but if they don't improve my wife will be getting 4 new polishing cloths!!

[dai]

I have found another way of using them. Use them damp on the small openers
and blade them with a small squeegy. The rinse aid solution will stay wet long enough for you to do this. You end up with just a few drips that don't even reach the pane below. Great for doing insides too. Dai

[brett walker]

     thankyou all for your replys from reading all of the above there is so many new ideas.  i do find the microfibre to move accross the glass faster than the scrim could anyone tell me if you wash your microfibre with your scrims or seperatly in the washing machine each day  thanks brett