[alanwilson]

dr

there really is nothing to changing the resin in the refillable blue containers, takes a couple of minutes to change and as edd has said the difference in cost is huge - we don't use a lot of resin (one bag will last a year with us per van so thats only 2 bags a year we get through)

we use approx 3000ltrs per week per van = 138000 ltrs pure water per year (46 week working year) x 2 vans = 276000ltrs ater a year.

using Ionics filters we would need 4 times as many changes (only 6ltrs per cannister) so 8 x £80 = £640 a year as opposed to £160

saving of £480 for quite literally a total of 20mins work throughout the year, thats equivalent to £1440 an hour

I don't know of any window cleaners who would refer to that as small beer.

[edd]

alan wilson this man talks my talk someone else that knows his stuff
 
cheers alan

[Window Washers]

dr

there really is nothing to changing the resin in the refillable blue containers, takes a couple of minutes to change and as edd has said the difference in cost is huge - we don't use a lot of resin (one bag will last a year with us per van so thats only 2 bags a year we get through)

we use approx 3000ltrs per week per van = 138000 ltrs pure water per year (46 week working year) x 2 vans = 276000ltrs ater a year.

using Ionics filters we would need 4 times as many changes (only 6ltrs per cannister) so 8 x £80 = £640 a year as opposed to £160

saving of £480 for quite literally a total of 20mins work throughout the year, thats equivalent to £1440 an hour

I don't know of any window cleaners who would refer to that as small beer.

if they do I would like a job with them please 

[Sunshine/Cleaning]

I had one of their canisters on my first set-up. I changed to a DI canister and now re-fill when needed.

I double DI so the no.2 becomes no.1 This would be less simple with Ionics filters and more costly.

If however you have correctly costed for Ionics then for simplicity its fine.

[stephen s]

ok MR pure  crap meaning only lasts 2 /3 months before they went brown and at £ 80 a time this is not good enough ok
the point is that £ 58 a bag of resin that lasts say 14 months or £ 80 every say 3 months on the colour change resin.....= £ 400 for the same time . I think that , that is good marketing for Ionics but absolutely no good for us or could you not work that out for yourself???faffing about with resin once every 14 months is no prob but changing resin tubes every 3 is, imo and its only my opinion
ok as well as replacing the carbon tube we have installed a 10 inch particle and a 10 inch cabon block filter which last from GAPS WATER 50/80000 litres not bad really at £ 4.00 each and again the Ionic carbon is £ 80.00 and my after the ro is only 2ppm so my carbon filters work more efficiently I could go on all night but whats the point hope this helps
after all it was bad enough paying £28000 for van and system in the first place without paying for resin @ £80 a time

I find that very strange mate as mine lasted 17 months and I only changed it because I thought it needed changing when it didn't really as tds was reading 02

how much will you spend on resin in 17 months ?

[edd]

6 Ionics filters in 18 months=£480

2 bags resin .....................=£118



Simples eerhh!!

[edd]

im sorry but mine only lasted 3 ish months and I'm not the only one plenty of others say the same that's all I know  Ionics themselves say that they will need changing when they go brown and lets be honest they only hold 6 litres of resin
so doing the maths they can not possibly last 17 months sorry !! unless you are using 100 ltrs a day or less

[edd]

also like I showed you in the photo why even use resin if you use water at 2ppm my ro produces
water at 2ppm ?? so no real need for resin 

[stephen s]

im sorry but mine only lasted 3 ish months and I'm not the only one plenty of others say the same that's all I know  Ionics themselves say that they will need changing when they go brown and lets be honest they only hold 6 litres of resin
so doing the maths they can not possibly last 17 months sorry !! unless you are using 100 ltrs a day or less

Think you and  I both need a maths lesson mate as it was actually 29 months without a change,  had system fitted August 06  changed resin Jan 09 but only because I decided to change as windows still looked gleaming,   I have a 650 Litre tank in van and not one single complaint of any customer, infact lots of positive feedback and recommendations to other customers.

I don't care if the resin chages colour I go what the tds reads and mine reads fine and results speak for themselves.

[edd]

like I said mate if the resin is spent ? and the ro is producing 2ppm
( 1 ) you dont need resin and never will
( 2 ) you can leave the spent resin on indefinably in another 3 years if the ro
stays the same the results would be the same for sure

[jr windows]

v8edd,
Sent u an email mate,
Cheers Jason

[Dean Lewis]

Ionics DI - lasted 3 months @£80
Each replacement !!!!
considering swapping linear
 filter to Bottle type with resin fill.
Any recommendations?
Cheers.

[Pete Thompson]

there really is nothing to changing the resin in the refillable blue containers, takes a couple of minutes to change

Sorry but no way does not take "a couple of minutes" to change the resin a DI bottle.  I use them all the time, you have to detach it from the system, empty out the resin, rinse it out, then carefully feed the resin in around the riser tube, which is an art in itself (that stuff gets EVERYWHERE) and when its wet it sticks to everything.

Then you have to rinse the whole thing down because without fail the resin gets all over it.

In my experience it takes a minimum of about 40 minutes.

(And even longer if you forget to put the riser tube in before you put the new resin in)

Have to say I have been very tempted to convert to ionics filters just for the "clip off, clip on" convenience.

[Arnold Palmer]

40 minutes? Seriously?

[8weekly]

there really is nothing to changing the resin in the refillable blue containers, takes a couple of minutes to change

Sorry but no way does not take "a couple of minutes" to change the resin a DI bottle.  I use them all the time, you have to detach it from the system, empty out the resin, rinse it out, then carefully feed the resin in around the riser tube, which is an art in itself (that stuff gets EVERYWHERE) and when its wet it sticks to everything.

Then you have to rinse the whole thing down because without fail the resin gets all over it.

In my experience it takes a minimum of about 40 minutes.

(And even longer if you forget to put the riser tube in before you put the new resin in)

Have to say I have been very tempted to convert to ionics filters just for the "clip off, clip on" convenience.

Pour water in before inserting the riser. I agree though that it is a pain in the orris job. Easily 20-30 minutes.

[robert mitchell]

The only bit thats time consuming is getting the fecking lid off the thing .......the rest is quick and easy

[Perfect Windows]

there really is nothing to changing the resin in the refillable blue containers, takes a couple of minutes to change

Sorry but no way does not take "a couple of minutes" to change the resin a DI bottle.  I use them all the time, you have to detach it from the system, empty out the resin, rinse it out, then carefully feed the resin in around the riser tube, which is an art in itself (that stuff gets EVERYWHERE) and when its wet it sticks to everything.

Then you have to rinse the whole thing down because without fail the resin gets all over it.

In my experience it takes a minimum of about 40 minutes.

(And even longer if you forget to put the riser tube in before you put the new resin in)

Have to say I have been very tempted to convert to ionics filters just for the "clip off, clip on" convenience.

Try a different way.

Fill the empty vessel with resin (80% full), using a wide necked funnel (mine's made out of cardboard)

Fill the vessel with water to just above the resin level.

Push in the riser tube and lid.  If it sticks (and it shouldn't) just blow into the "out" hole of the lid - it forms an air bubble around the bottom of the riser that it's easy to push into.

That's it.  Should take about ten minutes for the fill part.

Vin

[Perfect Windows]

And for what it's worth, to empty the DI, I just pour everything in the DI into two bin liners, one inside the other.  Tie them up, water and all inside.  Make a dozen pinpricks through the binbags, leave it outside for 24 hours and all the water will have drained out leaving just damp resin inside ready for the bin.

Vin

[richard groves]

there really is nothing to changing the resin in the refillable blue containers, takes a couple of minutes to change

Sorry but no way does not take "a couple of minutes" to change the resin a DI bottle.  I use them all the time, you have to detach it from the system, empty out the resin, rinse it out, then carefully feed the resin in around the riser tube, which is an art in itself (that stuff gets EVERYWHERE) and when its wet it sticks to everything.

Then you have to rinse the whole thing down because without fail the resin gets all over it.

In my experience it takes a minimum of about 40 minutes.

(And even longer if you forget to put the riser tube in before you put the new resin in)

Have to say I have been very tempted to convert to ionics filters just for the "clip off, clip on" convenience.

Try a different way.

Fill the empty vessel with resin (80% full), using a wide necked funnel (mine's made out of cardboard)

Fill the vessel with water to just above the resin level.

Push in the riser tube and lid.  If it sticks (and it shouldn't) just blow into the "out" hole of the lid - it forms an air bubble around the bottom of the riser that it's easy to push into.

That's it.  Should take about ten minutes for the fill part.

Vin

Even that sounds a bit too time consuming.
I changed my resin today whilst out working.
My bucket holds approx the same amount as my resin vessel, so I tip the resin in to the bucket 2/3 to 3/4 full and top up with ro water, when its sloppy enough I pour it straight in to the di cannister and replace the riser tube and thats it. 5 mins.

I was a little annoyed though at taking 5 mins out of my day and had to work later to catch up and reach my £300 target, meaning I didnt get home until 1.15 this afternoon, but hey ho, such is life, lesson learnt. I'll do it on a weekend next time.

[Perfect Windows]

Even that sounds a bit too time consuming.
I changed my resin today whilst out working.
My bucket holds approx the same amount as my resin vessel, so I tip the resin in to the bucket 2/3 to 3/4 full and top up with ro water, when its sloppy enough I pour it straight in to the di cannister and replace the riser tube and thats it. 5 mins.

I'll give that a try next time - sounds like quite an improvement.  Thanks.

Vin