[Mike_G]

Do the filters on Ionic systems need to be brought from ionic or are they standard size which can be brought from other suppliers which I expect would be a fair amount cheaper?

[CLEANGLASSUK]

Ionic filters are a rip off and the resin filter is crap steer well clear.

[[GQC] Tim]

Do the filters on Ionic systems need to be brought from ionic or are they standard size which can be brought from other suppliers which I expect would be a fair amount cheaper?

I believe they are proprietary sealed units, so yea you would have to buy them off Ionics. A fair few people change the Ionics DI for normal DI vessels due to them being so expensive.

[CLEANGLASSUK]

Do the filters on Ionic systems need to be brought from ionic or are they standard size which can be brought from other suppliers which I expect would be a fair amount cheaper?

I believe they are proprietary sealed units, so yea you would have to buy them off Ionics. A fair few people change the Ionics DI for normal DI vessels due to them being so expensive.

They dont change them because they are expensive, they change them because they are crap with a capital C.

[traps7]

I know someone who cut it open a few inches from the end (not the middle else it hard to re-join and sags), re-filled it with resin and sealed it back up with one of those rubber soil pipe adapters. The one that takes a jubilee clip each end. Keeps the whole unit compact still as apposed to a seperate di vessel.

[edd]

they are all crap Ionic filters just get a 25 litre di and fit and forget for a year like mine

excuse the mess lol

[edd]

by the way the van doesn't look like this now opps

[R.V.A Window Cleaning Services]

Do the filters on Ionic systems need to be brought from ionic or are they standard size which can be brought from other suppliers which I expect would be a fair amount cheaper?

I believe they are proprietary sealed units, so yea you would have to buy them off Ionics. A fair few people change the Ionics DI for normal DI vessels due to them being so expensive.

They dont change them because they are expensive, they change them because they are crap with a capital C.

You say they are crap, wouldn't it be better for everyone reading your crap if you gave a reason why you say they are crap or don't you have one? The ionics fillter i have on my pro 5 system has had 250000ltrs of ro water through it, my tds from tap is 260/280 after ro 7/10 after di resin 0.00/0.01. You see, explain your answer and that way will take note of your post. As for price, not bad £80.00 all in no messing and and lasts ages

[drwindows]

I use ionic filters.  WHen they are spent, you clip one off, and clip the new one in.  Takes 30 seconds.

I could get refillable resin bottles, but really whats the point.

By the time I've messed around emptying, rinsing out and then spooning resin into a bottle, I would probably have lost more cash in lost work time than I would have saved.

Also, I dont really want to have to faff about with resin, i like the convenience.

And as for being "crap with a capital C", well I never had any problems, they seem to last quite well.  Water goes in one side and comes out the other, there's not much to go wrong surely?

[Mike_G]

What about the other filters guys? RO Membrane, carbon etc

[J~C~S]

The ionics resin vessels hold about 6litres of resin... not loads really.

I cut one open for a butchers when the seals on it popped.

Reused the softener resin in a 6.9 litre pressure vessel.

[edd]

ok MR pure  crap meaning only lasts 2 /3 months before they went brown and at £ 80 a time this is not good enough ok
the point is that £ 58 a bag of resin that lasts say 14 months or £ 80 every say 3 months on the colour change resin.....= £ 400 for the same time . I think that , that is good marketing for Ionics but absolutely no good for us or could you not work that out for yourself???faffing about with resin once every 14 months is no prob but changing resin tubes every 3 is, imo and its only my opinion
ok as well as replacing the carbon tube we have installed a 10 inch particle and a 10 inch cabon block filter which last from GAPS WATER 50/80000 litres not bad really at £ 4.00 each and again the Ionic carbon is £ 80.00 and my after the ro is only 2ppm so my carbon filters work more efficiently I could go on all night but whats the point hope this helps
after all it was bad enough paying £28000 for van and system in the first place without paying for resin @ £80 a time

[edd]

oh

[drwindows]

who said they last 3 months?

I've had mine about 9 months and its still going strong.

I take what you're saying tho yeah you probably could save a bit of money if you wanted to using a bottle, but once you get used to the ease of clipping one out and putting another one in, well you do get lazy.

Like I said, its the convenience (and time saving) you pay for, some are happy to pay it, some are not.

To draw a parallel, I guess, you could go to a shampoo wholesaler and get 20 litres of shampoo at a time and fill up your bathside bottle from it to save some cash, but really thats an inconvenience you dont mind paying extra to avoid.  Its the same for me with filters.

But if resin bottles work best for you then fair play.

[edd]

its not the work of changing,its a money thing for us £80 x 3 monthly and that
was all they seem to last and I have to admit to tds was still 000 ppm but the colour was brown and we was told to change them when brown so maybe they would last longer then we thought and we were novices at that time lol.
The 25 litre resin lasts 14 months @ £59 or £400 simples Edd

[jr windows]

v8edd,

It looks like you have adapted your system alot. In your experience, would you recommend buying a van and system from a major player? Does it bring in better work? Genuine question, looking for advice.

Thanks, jason

[[GQC] Tim]

By the time I've messed around emptying, rinsing out and then spooning resin into a bottle, I would probably have lost more cash in lost work time than I would have saved.

You work 24hrs a day 7 days a week then? No spare 5 minutes once every 6 months?!

It's all about cost, and you can save buckets of cash by simply using a standard DI, you say you would lose cash by not working five minutes, yet you spend hundreds upon hundreds of pounds more just by using Ionics filters. Yet 5 minutes not worked is about 5 pounds.

Your logic is very flawed.

[drwindows]

I bet it takes longer than 5 minutes.

And what I'm saying is I like the ease of using ionics filters, and dont mind spending a little extra for the convenience.  "buckets" of cash, lol hardly! Small beer in window cleaning terms, and no faffing.

And its all tax deductible (unlike your precious time)

[edd]

JR in a word NO we will go diy next time but we will get a new van which I think looks the part £ 199 pm
and probably just fit my machine in . imo the van looking good helps promote buisiness so does good looking
work wear... but too spend £ 10000 + on a machine that most of the time you will only see is not profitable but
having said that it worked for us , but i'd rather not spend £ 614 on repayments  but £20 a day wont kill me either
as we were trad for 26 years I just wanted something to be perfect from day one!! :

[R.V.A Window Cleaning Services]

Thankyou for explaining your reasons, a much better read