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matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2005, 01:22:59 pm »
top site matt , I only started the leap over to the dark side yesterday and went into my local camping shop to get some 25lts contaners - came out with a 35ltr container on wheels that they use for sticking under caravans . got a rechargable power pack for £14.99 !! from Makro , thay have them on special for 2 weeks .

the powerpack sits on top nice .
click - to see - 
http://www.sportscorner.co.uk/watertank.html

when i see it had to have it LOL - just got to sort pump out etc etc then ready to rock  8)



i looked at the same type of thing :) but what put me off was the refill time, i prefered to just change the barrel over

but i did like the look of the waste water cart

matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2005, 02:00:04 pm »
might pop along to Makro and have a look if they have any left :)

save me a few quid, cheers

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2005, 03:59:54 pm »
Matt,

Top post mate; I've saved it to my 'favourates' to study at my leisure.

Regards.

Tosh.

lee_dewing

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Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2005, 10:35:35 am »
hi, well done on a great idea, i wondered if you could you answer some questions on it:
1) how long does water in barrel last , how many 3 bed semi's could you do all-round before refill?
2) how many 25 ltr containers do you have with you?
3) I have a ford escort van would this be sufficient?
4)how many cleans to get a good result?
5) how did your customers take to your new way of working? 6) did you lose any custom when changed over?
7) did you find it easy enough to get to grips with using poles did you need training?
Sorry to bombard you with questions but i found  your site very intresting. Lee_dewing@hotmailco.uk
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2005, 04:30:48 pm »
just answered in a seperate thread :)

pjulk

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2005, 05:29:46 pm »
Quote
I have a ford escort van would this be sufficient?

I also have an escort van and it would be big enough depending on how much work you are doing each day.
I have only been using WFP for a week now, last week i was just doing tops until i got used to it a bit, This week i am doing the whole house.
I carry 10  water bottles with me but one day last week i carried 13 and on average im using 25ltrs on most house 3 and 4 bed semi's
On a terrace house im using about 20ltrs

Paul

Duke

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2005, 05:42:40 pm »
I get about 4 semi's out of 50 litres....but it can be 50 litres on a new clean or large detached 4 bed jobbie....it's always less after a first clean....once they are in good nick...it takes very little water to keep them up to scratch...I suppose I use about 250 litres a day normally, maybe less, depends on the jobs. It's more an issue with the battery on the trolley going flat. When it was new, it'd last 4-5 days on a charge...now I seem to be charging it every other day...oh well, I guess I need to buy and carry a spare one.....though I'm still working on an 'in car' charger for the trolley....not as straight forward as it seems....but I'll get there.

jsm

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Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2005, 07:36:19 pm »
silly question I know but is it easy to see how clean 2nd and 3rd floor windows  are from the ground , or is it brush on 20litres and run  :-[
John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2005, 11:55:24 pm »
my 2nd floor stuff, i use the same flow rate as domestic houses and just trust the water :)

use the force  ;D

Glen

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Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2005, 11:37:04 am »
I hav not transferred over to WFP yet and I like the idea of building my own system but, not knocking this ingenious system, from a presentation point of view would it not be better to have a fancy bought one so you would be taken more seriously, charge more and have more chance of getting commercial contracts? Just a few thoughts, thats all.

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2005, 03:42:44 pm »
I hav not transferred over to WFP yet and I like the idea of building my own system but, not knocking this ingenious system, from a presentation point of view would it not be better to have a fancy bought one so you would be taken more seriously, charge more and have more chance of getting commercial contracts? Just a few thoughts, thats all.
very good point glen, however it's all down to budget, mine is a homemade trolley system and i think i'm taken seriously by my customers (least i hope they do)
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2005, 04:55:14 pm »
Matt,

I'm a traditional window cleaner, but won't be for much longer, thanks to this post.

Someone like me needs an 'idiots guide'. 

Donation made!

Regards.

Tosh.

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2005, 04:58:05 pm »
I hav not transferred over to WFP yet and I like the idea of building my own system but, not knocking this ingenious system, from a presentation point of view would it not be better to have a fancy bought one so you would be taken more seriously, charge more and have more chance of getting commercial contracts? Just a few thoughts, thats all.
very good point glen, however it's all down to budget, mine is a homemade trolley system and i think i'm taken seriously by my customers (least i hope they do)

In my limited experience, it's not the kit you use that gets you large commercial contracts.  It's how you present yourself when asked for a quote.

And getting asked for quotes, for big jobs, is another thread completely.

Duke

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2005, 04:59:56 pm »
Tosh...I'm no expert...and I don't use (yet) a handmade system...but anytime you want to chew the fat over WFP systems...you can always PM me or speak to me on messenger....you are always welcome...I might be able to help out sometimes...all the best.

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2005, 05:20:18 pm »
Tosh...I'm no expert...and I don't use (yet) a handmade system...but anytime you want to chew the fat over WFP systems...you can always PM me or speak to me on messenger....you are always welcome...I might be able to help out sometimes...all the best.

Thanks Duke,

No doubt I will be asking you questions regarding WFP shortly.  Ian_Giles who's local to me has also agreed to show me the ropes, for the price of a lunch (my suggestion) and I just have to find the time to meet up with him when he's working, and I'm not. 

I just think this is a cracking post as Matt has obviously spent a lot of time researching his stuff, posting links, and explaining how it all works in layman's terms (pictures and everything).

Had this post been on E-bay, charging for the information up-front, then I would've raised an eye-brow.

However, he's saying here's how it all works, where to get the stuff.  Pay me if you want!  I think if you use his information as the foundation for purchasing the equipment required to put together a WFP, and it works just as well as a ready-made one, at half the cost, then a tenner is a cheap price to pay.

Mind you, if, and when I do follow his instructions, and it all goes 'pear shaped', I'll want my tenner back!

But I think Matt will feel quite safe in the knowledge that his system works; so mine should too.

Duke

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2005, 05:30:02 pm »
hear, hear...I'm sure it'll all be fine....otherwise we'd all be 'in it'..lol'

jsm

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Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2005, 10:33:21 pm »
top site matt , I only started the leap over to the dark side yesterday and went into my local camping shop to get some 25lts contaners - came out with a 35ltr container on wheels that they use for sticking under caravans . got a rechargable power pack for £14.99 !! from Makro , thay have them on special for 2 weeks .



had a play with the wastemaster today  :(
not as good as it looks in practice - looks like my dad will get a early xmas prescent  :'(

popped into mackro again today - still stacks of powerpacks left @ £14.99 plus vat
John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2005, 10:58:08 pm »
Matt,

I'm a traditional window cleaner, but won't be for much longer, thanks to this post.

Someone like me needs an 'idiots guide'. 

Donation made!

Regards.

Tosh.

cheers tosh :)

matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2005, 11:00:44 pm »
Tosh...I'm no expert...and I don't use (yet) a handmade system...but anytime you want to chew the fat over WFP systems...you can always PM me or speak to me on messenger....you are always welcome...I might be able to help out sometimes...all the best.

Thanks Duke,

No doubt I will be asking you questions regarding WFP shortly.  Ian_Giles who's local to me has also agreed to show me the ropes, for the price of a lunch (my suggestion) and I just have to find the time to meet up with him when he's working, and I'm not. 

I just think this is a cracking post as Matt has obviously spent a lot of time researching his stuff, posting links, and explaining how it all works in layman's terms (pictures and everything).

Had this post been on E-bay, charging for the information up-front, then I would've raised an eye-brow.

However, he's saying here's how it all works, where to get the stuff.  Pay me if you want!  I think if you use his information as the foundation for purchasing the equipment required to put together a WFP, and it works just as well as a ready-made one, at half the cost, then a tenner is a cheap price to pay.

Mind you, if, and when I do follow his instructions, and it all goes 'pear shaped', I'll want my tenner back!

But I think Matt will feel quite safe in the knowledge that his system works; so mine should too.

it wasnt about the money though, it was about helping others get sorted WITHOUT over paying for the thing

I would never had gone down the WFP route if i hadnt built my own (cheers for the help Jeff) as i couldnt justify spending over 1000 on it

the system works, and it works well, i have no worries about that :)

cheers again tosh

matt

Re: Its HERE, the DIY WFP guide
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2005, 11:02:01 pm »
top site matt , I only started the leap over to the dark side yesterday and went into my local camping shop to get some 25lts contaners - came out with a 35ltr container on wheels that they use for sticking under caravans . got a rechargable power pack for £14.99 !! from Makro , thay have them on special for 2 weeks .



ditch the wastemaster and get a SACK TRUCK and you wil be sorted, some1 on the forum on DIYWFP just uses a bungee to keep the barrel in place :)

had a play with the wastemaster today  :(
not as good as it looks in practice - looks like my dad will get a early xmas prescent  :'(

popped into mackro again today - still stacks of powerpacks left @ £14.99 plus vat