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what way round do you have your upright tanks in van

lengh ways
16%
4 (16%)
the width of van
84%
21 (84%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Window Washers

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upright tank in van ???????????
« on: April 30, 2009, 05:14:33 pm »
Guy just wondering how others have there tanks in vans.

if you have it width way what is it like on handling ?

if you reply please could you say what size tanks and what way it is fitted in van.

Ian
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Alex Gardiner

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 05:36:21 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.

Window Washers

  • Posts: 9036
Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 05:54:44 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

JSMC

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 05:58:34 pm »
TBH i have only jus tgot my tank in past few weeks and take my time anyway when driving.

driving miss daisy i am.
i am in a rush to go nowhere. There is always tomorrow

Window Washers

  • Posts: 9036
Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2009, 06:00:21 pm »
TBH i have only jus tgot my tank in past few weeks and take my time anyway when driving.

driving miss daisy i am.
i am in a rush to go nowhere. There is always tomorrow
That helped  ::) :P
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

cybersye

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 06:15:24 pm »
I have a 650 ltr upright the width of the van in a peugeot expert hdi
Its ratchet strapped to the caged bulkhead frame behind the seats
It does'nt seem to adversly effect the handling, but is a lot more sloshy half full, what the manufacturers consider "baffles" on these tanks is a joke, however I am soon to be ordering a custom built layflat for this very reason and to create more room for weekend use of my van as it is my only form of transport.


Steve CM

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 06:18:11 pm »
my 650 layflat made the van move more than my 1000 litre layflat does. don't know why. my 500 upright in my other van has movement.

Window Washers

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 06:19:06 pm »
I have a 650 ltr upright the width of the van in a peugeot expert hdi
Its ratchet strapped to the caged bulkhead frame behind the seats
It does'nt seem to adversly effect the handling, but is a lot more sloshy half full, what the manufacturers consider "baffles" on these tanks is a joke, however I am soon to be ordering a custom built layflat for this very reason and to create more room for weekend use of my van as it is my only form of transport.


I agree with the "what the manufacturers consider "baffles" as they are rubbish IMO.
someone could clear up if they mass produced a properly baffled tank like wydale, I guess the cost just out weighs it because most dont say anything and still with whats available ::)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 06:21:30 pm »
In the past I have used cut-up pieces of cheap drain pipe as baffles, when I had a 1000 litre IBC

Alex Gardiner

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 06:35:44 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?

This will because the tanks you are using are not fully baffled. A fully baffled lay flat tank will always be more stable.

Window Washers

  • Posts: 9036
Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 06:37:01 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?

This will because the tanks you are using are not fully baffled. A fully baffled lay flat tank will always be more stable.
any idea on the price of a 600l ish tank lay flat Alex ?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

dave.e

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 07:05:10 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?

This will because the tanks you are using are not fully baffled. A fully baffled lay flat tank will always be more stable.
any idea on the price of a 600l ish tank lay flat Alex ?



ian have you thought about 2x350lt tanks this is whats in the back off my tranny and no movement what so ever if you want pics let me know. dave





Window Washers

  • Posts: 9036
Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 08:06:05 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?

This will because the tanks you are using are not fully baffled. A fully baffled lay flat tank will always be more stable.
any idea on the price of a 600l ish tank lay flat Alex ?



ian have you thought about 2x350lt tanks this is whats in the back off my tranny and no movement what so ever if you want pics let me know. dave





I had this in mind, please email design@windowwashers.co.uk if thats ok with the pics.

thank you
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

dave.e

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 08:38:22 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?

This will because the tanks you are using are not fully baffled. A fully baffled lay flat tank will always be more stable.
any idea on the price of a 600l ish tank lay flat Alex ?



ian have you thought about 2x350lt tanks this is whats in the back off my tranny and no movement what so ever if you want pics let me know. dave





I had this in mind, please email design@windowwashers.co.uk if thats ok with the pics.

thank you



Ian you have mail

Alex Gardiner

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2009, 09:45:06 pm »
I wouldn't have an upright tank in my van, not stable enough for me.

Best configuration for stability is a flat tank laid lengthways.
Thanks for the reply Alex  ;)
I have to disagree with you in a way Alex, I have both and the upright seems far better for stability, cant feel the upright but the flat lenghtways rolls front to back when you break half full. I am not saying your wrong just what from what I have and feel so thats 2 opinions. i'm still  :-\ but would love to hear from people that have tanks width ways in vans to see what they same, but any feedback is welcome...

Anyone else ?

This will because the tanks you are using are not fully baffled. A fully baffled lay flat tank will always be more stable.
any idea on the price of a 600l ish tank lay flat Alex ?

A custom made fully compartmentalised 600 litre tank would be about £350-£400 delivered.

JCS*

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 09:51:51 pm »
If you get one from the guy alex recommends/uses you can have it fully customised to your particular van, so maikng the best use of the space you have, without wasting any.


You can also have storage areas built on top or around if needed etc..  Also pump and  controller can be fixed...

I only know this as I looked into it extensively a while ago....  The guy know's what he's talking about!

R W C

Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 09:53:54 pm »
Ian get a skid tank mate, this is what ill be getting next.


NWH

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 10:00:29 pm »
Properly baffled 600ltr tank from www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk,i`m quiet surprised at the way your tank has been installed Ian actually i`ve always said it dosen`t look that secure being positioned that way.I have an upright because i had to have 1 to go in the frame i had but when i change vans i will go for a flat tank next time because it`s safer far more room for storage on top and makes more use of the floor.

Window Washers

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 10:11:50 pm »
If you was meaning me when you said Ian, I have a flat tank in one van a layflat in other, the flat waste a hell of a lot of scapce and the way the upright is, same goes.

hence my questions on this.
I am looking into the custom tank, my problem with them is the fixing of it to the van, I have some heavy buly things being added as fixings and am limited for space. lay flat just to much waste of space and from what I have found I do not like the rocking from them when half full, my up right does not do this half as much.
maybe I should get an upright custom made with correct baffles and cure the problem, what annoys me is the so called tanks over 300L don't seem to fit the job they are made for. maybe everyone here sign a form and sent it to makers and make them listen, 1000's use there tanks.

Alex, if this is up your sleeve then bring it on and make yourself the main supplier  ;)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

NWH

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Re: upright tank in van ???????????
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 10:15:36 pm »
If you have a flat tank and it`s say 14" high you lose no room hardly at all lol how can you say you lose room,all you`ve lost is that low level space.With an upright you simply just lose that space you have no room to store on top with a sheet of ply etc.