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ftp

  • Posts: 4694
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2009, 08:34:37 pm »
Don't the military use vehicles a bit bigger than my Despatch?

cybersye

Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2009, 08:56:46 pm »
PACK-A-TANK do them, a few use them at VW shows, leave them outside and the sun heats them up and they use them for showers

the 125 L would be handy for them jobs you are worred about running out of water


PACK-A-TANK® is available in 5 stock sizes of
125 litres, 250 litres, 500 litres, 750 litres &
1000 litres
just tried googling for a uk supplier, but no joy
do you know of one Matt ?
thanks
simon

matt

Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 09:05:06 pm »
PACK-A-TANK do them, a few use them at VW shows, leave them outside and the sun heats them up and they use them for showers

the 125 L would be handy for them jobs you are worred about running out of water


PACK-A-TANK® is available in 5 stock sizes of
125 litres, 250 litres, 500 litres, 750 litres &
1000 litres
just tried googling for a uk supplier, but no joy
do you know of one Matt ?
thanks
simon

i will ask some1 who i know who has 1

they call them " PACK-A-TANK ". but i guess they might be some other make

i just googled PACK-A-TANK and cut and pasted the sizes

i know they have a 125 L size, as it takes the whole day to heat up

LWC

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 09:24:51 pm »
brilliant!

Glyn H

Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2009, 09:27:54 pm »
Quote
Don't the military use vehicles a bit bigger than my Despatch?


I dont know!
many drive Jeeps, Landrovers, and of course the Toyota pickup favourite of many middle and far eastern military forces.

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2009, 10:00:12 pm »
found a uk supplier, worth asking if they stock them
http://www.water-direct.co.uk/pillow_tanks_and_bladder_tanks.html

karygate

  • Posts: 694
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2009, 08:27:18 am »
here is someones price list. seems a bit steep
http://www.water-storage-tank.com/support-files/pillow_tanks_flyer.pdf
gary

Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2009, 08:37:04 am »
Could be handy if I'm ever unable to pay my mortgage.  Rip the existing tank out of the van and substitute one of those tanks.  An all in one work and sleep solution   :)

ftp

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2009, 09:11:24 am »
Oh well,l I've dropped enough hints so I might as well spell it out. So we forget all about securing heavy loads now and chuck a roly poly bag in the back that slides from left to right, forwards and backwards on the bed of your van? No baffles? No cage? Ionics and Brodex have wasted all their crash testing money obviously.  ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2009, 09:22:36 am »
Oh wel,l I've dropped enough hints so I might as well spell it out. So we forget all about securing heavy loads now and chuck a roley poley bag in the back that slides from left to right, forwards and backwards on the bed of your van? No baffles? No cage? Ionics and Brodex have wasted all their crash testing money obviously.  ;D

But would it? Or would it's very design allow it to spread it's kinetic energy without damage? Andy A we need an answer!

Oh, and very funny leapstallbldgs ...  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

steve bell

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2009, 10:45:25 am »
Hmmm.... seen these before and thought about their uses in a window cleaning WFP pure storage capacity. I had a little experiment with something a little smaller scale before spending any money.
Try this yourselves; Get one of those 'zip locked' plastic bags and fill it three quarters full with regular tap water. (don't want to waste precious pure water on experimentation) seal the bag three quarters across the top and squeeze until any air is expelled. Then seal the bag fully. Place on a tray and then tilt the tray in a manner to simulate vehicle movement.

I think you may find you have an uncontrollable mass with almost jelly like qualities. The only way to counter this would be to encapsulate the bag in some sort of container or box. But even then, the absence of baffles will cause problems. :(

Sorry to shoot a good idea down. Without idea's like this and people willing to think outside the box we probably wouldn't have the WFP solution in the first place. :)
Steve Bell,
SB Cleaning.

(also; HIP & EPC provider but with this climate.....)

ftp

  • Posts: 4694
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2009, 11:05:55 am »
Even if you secured the corners with quality lashings I think it's going to act like a blamonge (how do you spell that?) when the water level drops. I should imagine they are at their most stable when pumped full to the max.

cybersye

Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2009, 08:11:40 pm »
Even if you secured the corners with quality lashings I think it's going to act like a blamonge (how do you spell that?) when the water level drops. I should imagine they are at their most stable when pumped full to the max.
think that your probably right there, they would be of little use if you had to move your vehicle between jobs but could be useful for extra storage if you had a big commercial job and not a large enough tank perhaps.

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2009, 12:23:52 am »
dont forget these pillow tanks can be customized if you have the cash, to baffle them, all they do is welt  sections between the top and bottom with holes in them before they seal them together, i use to own a welter so i know what i am talking about,

ftp

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2009, 09:00:25 am »
Best get welting then Jo and buid a 650ltr one and give it a go.  ;)

I'd love to see how you brim one without getting the van wet.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2009, 01:50:29 pm »
My idea with these is to fit a smaller one INSIDE my 650 layflat tank.
Why?

Because I want to use the tank for pressure washing, and not waste resin by using DI water for the pressure washing. So, fill the pillow bag (100 litres or so) with pure (Separate outlet of course), fill the rest of the tank with tap water, pressure wash away and still have pure water left to clean the windows when I'm finished pressure washing,.. all without the hassle of an extra tank, extra frame, extra weight in the van,.....

Would it work?

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2009, 02:48:27 pm »
for your custys that dont have an outside tap, your idea is a good one nathan,

Glyn H

Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2009, 03:05:12 pm »
Quote
My idea with these is to fit a smaller one INSIDE my 650 layflat tank.
Why?

Because I want to use the tank for pressure washing, and not waste resin by using DI water for the pressure washing. So, fill the pillow bag (100 litres or so) with pure (Separate outlet of course), fill the rest of the tank with tap water, pressure wash away and still have pure water left to clean the windows when I'm finished pressure washing,.. all without the hassle of an extra tank, extra frame, extra weight in the van,.....

Would it work?


Yes it would work, with a little bit of fiddling about to get the water outlet setup so that the pressure from the weight of the water in the main tank didnt interfere with the flow from the pillow tank.
Any baffles in the main tank could cause a problem but not an insurmountable one.

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2009, 05:56:07 pm »
ok guys found them suitable for our use. and dirt cheap to

heres the link, scroll half way down for 5 sizes from £38 to £75 and they are based here in the uk  8)
http://www.marinescene.co.uk/manufacturer/8/plastimo

dai

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Re: pillow water tanks
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2009, 10:33:58 pm »
My waterbed holds about 450 ltrs, [7ft x 6ft]I had thought about using my last mattress for carrying water.
Most water beds are filled with nylon fibre to slow down the water movement. I don't feel a thing when the Mrs gets out of bed, so you can baffle them. Containing them is the problem.