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STEVE-UK

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1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« on: April 03, 2009, 05:51:06 pm »
jut picked up my new tank from the fabricators,

will be fitting it as soon as poss :)

Ian Lancaster

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 06:52:46 pm »
what happens if those bolt holes don't line up with chassis members?

DaveG

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 07:12:36 pm »
Dont think much of your van Steve?? ;) ;D ;D
You can't polish a turd

Steve CM

Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 07:14:12 pm »
hope you don't suffer from sea sickness ;D

R W C

Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 07:17:55 pm »
That tank looks familiar.

NWH

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 07:35:31 pm »
hope you don't suffer from sea sickness ;D
I thought that aswell even the normal white baffled tanks are awful above 500ltrs,how much did they charge you for the frame.

STEVE-UK

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 09:04:34 pm »
what happens if those bolt holes don't line up with chassis members?

I gave the guy the measurements and the holes are spot on with the chassis

rhys11

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 09:09:41 pm »
I wouldn't worry about the bolts holes, that unbaffled tank will roll the van on a corner before long!! 

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)



How much did that frame cost you?

 



lol ;D
rhys

STEVE-UK

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 09:09:53 pm »
I wouldn't worry about the bolts holes, that unbaffled tank will roll the van on a corner before long!! 

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


How much did that frame cost you?

 


the lid has been replaced with a larger 12 inch lid to allow for the 8inch baffle pipes to be fitted so you dont get the slosh like you do in the upright 400 & 650 type tanks  ;)

rhys11

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2009, 09:13:06 pm »
what happens if those bolt holes don't line up with chassis members?

I gave the guy the measurements and the holes are spot on with the chassis


how much did the frame cost???
rhys

STEVE-UK

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2009, 09:21:24 pm »
might be selling these on ebay soon as you cannt get bare tank and frames cheaply, how much would you pay for the tank and frame?

on the side of the tank there are 2 plates to attach the pumps, that bar comes off to allow the tank to be removed from the side

i can move this frame and tank around on my easily, it will probably be different when baffled

 

cherubs cleaning

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 09:29:09 pm »
steve n ot being rude but u have just wasted your money



jerry

STEVE-UK

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 09:29:38 pm »
You should watch the Ionic crash test video.. .

I know a load on here don't like Ionic, but it was a real eye opener, just how much the tank frame bent and warped upon impact,

...and it had loads more diagonal supports than the tank shown above, (which looks like it doesn't have any :o :o )


Sorry, not trying to be a party pooper...

i did phone ionics to get a price for a tank & frame but they want £2800 plus vat :o


this frame is a different design to ionics but the strength being in the up and over supports

have you ever tried to move an empty ionics tank?   the tank when empty must weigh around 250 kg,  so its got to support its own weight plus the water

this tank probably wont be as safe an ionics but its the best alternative imo

STEVE-UK

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 09:31:07 pm »
steve n ot being rude but u have just wasted your money



jerry

i wont be thinking that if i have a prang with a strapped in ibc tank

Nathanael Jones

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 09:47:06 am »
I have to agree with Redcaddy. Any frame is better than none, so well done for making the effort, as many on here don't understand the need for a tank cage. Personally I'd take it back and get it bulked up a bit,.. add a lot more steel and some diagonal bracing.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 03:34:41 pm »
What setup do you have Ewan?

Window Washers

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 04:59:21 pm »
You should watch the Ionic crash test video.. .

I know a load on here don't like Ionic, but it was a real eye opener, just how much the tank frame bent and warped upon impact,

...and it had loads more diagonal supports than the tank shown above, (which looks like it doesn't have any :o :o )


Sorry, not trying to be a party pooper...

i did phone ionics to get a price for a tank & frame but they want £2800 plus vat :o


this frame is a different design to ionics but the strength being in the up and over supports

have you ever tried to move an empty ionics tank?   the tank when empty my weigh around 250 kg,  so its got to support its own weight plus the water

this tank probably wont be as safe an ionics but its the best alternative imo

Steve-uk, I'm not saying you should have bought an Ionic setup, but you could design a similar tank frame.

Have a look at how much the frame bent and warped upon impact on these videos: (click on pic)




That frame has loads of diagonal supports to spread load, the one the fabricators have put together for you has none!

You might want to get some welded in...  Those up and over supports will do next to nothing during a crash without cross bracing.  The welds will simply tear.
Something tells me if that was done at 50mph it would of ripped it like paper, showing how that has deformed is shocking and paid the amount of money ionics charge I would expect it to stay intact without the breaking of the frame, (that is if that pic is an ionics frame
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

STEVE-UK

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Re: 1000 litre tank & stainless frame
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 08:43:51 pm »
yeh that picture does show some serious stress to the frame, maybe next year will have mine beefed up or just get the ionics system