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Omnitrolley 125 DI
« on: March 28, 2009, 05:01:03 pm »
I have ordered a handheld TDS meter to see what my water is like, I hope its good enough to just go with DI, but I am interested in the Omnitrolley systems.

http://www.omnipole.com/omnitrolley.htm

However, I have a few questions I hope you guys can help me with.

One I drive kangoo RXE,

1. what would it be like getting a 125 litter trolley out the van, could I lift that, or will I need some sort of ramp?

2. How long would it take to fill a 125 litter trolley and how long could I expect that to last, the morning, all day? I know this is ambiguous question as it depends of number of jobs, if you could give me an educated guess.

3. I would be thinking of using a trigger to save water, I am intending on getting a pole carrier though if it fitted inside the van great. I would want something around 25-30 feet. I like the look of...

http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php/Water-Fed-Poles/Exel-GXTEL-Water-fed-Glass-Fibre-Pole/Detailed-product-flyer.html

the 30 feet gxtel27, would I get this inside a kangoo. If not, does the head come off that easy enough for storage in a pole carrier?

trevor povey

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Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2009, 05:07:58 pm »
I have ordered a handheld TDS meter to see what my water is like, I hope its good enough to just go with DI, but I am interested in the Omnitrolley systems.

http://www.omnipole.com/omnitrolley.htm

However, I have a few questions I hope you guys can help me with.

One I drive kangoo RXE,

1. what would it be like getting a 125 litter trolley out the van, could I lift that, or will I need some sort of ramp?

2. How long would it take to fill a 125 litter trolley and how long could I expect that to last, the morning, all day? I know this is ambiguous question as it depends of number of jobs, if you could give me an educated guess.

3. I would be thinking of using a trigger to save water, I am intending on getting a pole carrier though if it fitted inside the van great. I would want something around 25-30 feet. I like the look of...

http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php/Water-Fed-Poles/Exel-GXTEL-Water-fed-Glass-Fibre-Pole/Detailed-product-flyer.html

the 30 feet gxtel27, would I get this inside a kangoo. If not, does the head come off that easy enough for storage in a pole carrier?


1. you would struggle to lift it in half full...but if it was just tap water you would beable to pump some out

2. buy a 50 ltr one from omnipole fills quicker a lot easier to push around.

3. i,d buy a flow control valve that fits onto your pole ..see pure freedom

4. the pole would fit into yr van depending on closed length/bulkhead you may have to come up with some mods

Glyn H

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2009, 05:09:30 pm »
You would load and unload the 125 when it is empty filling it on the ground. Many customers leave the trolley in rtheir vehicle and unreel the hose to reach where they want to clean, additional hoses can be connected to reach further.

It will last just over two hours of continuose work at 1 litre per minute, the 125 has a bypass control valve so you can restrict the water use more if you wish for maintenance cleans or increse the flow for first cleans.

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 05:14:09 pm »

1. you would beable to lift it in half full just about anymore would be hard

2. buy a 50 ltr one from omnipole fills quicker a lot easier to push around.

3. i,d buy a flow control valve that fits onto your pole ..see pure freedom

If you try to lift even a half full 125 litre trolley you wont be doing it for long.

The water alone will weigh the equivalent of a 10 stone man, then theres the weight of the trolley on top, whats that.............20Kg; your looking at a total of a 13 stone man; I thought WFP was meant to be easier and safer.

NWH

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Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 05:19:02 pm »
You would load and unload the 125 when it is empty filling it on the ground. Many customers leave the trolley in rtheir vehicle and unreel the hose to reach where they want to clean, additional hoses can be connected to reach further.

It will last just over two hours of continuose work at 1 litre per minute, the 125 has a bypass control valve so you can restrict the water use more if you wish for maintenance cleans or increse the flow for first cleans.
Yeah like a vanmount lol. ;D

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 05:21:00 pm »
thanks guys, i like the idea of using it like a van mount with the use of reals.

can you guys elaborate more on...

fill times
the size of poles I could expect to fit inside a kangoo

also if I left it full, the the van would it not move around a bit? If anyone knows someone or has done something similar to what I am talking about, what did you do about securing it.


Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 05:21:15 pm »
You would load and unload the 125 when it is empty filling it on the ground. Many customers leave the trolley in rtheir vehicle and unreel the hose to reach where they want to clean, additional hoses can be connected to reach further.

It will last just over two hours of continuose work at 1 litre per minute, the 125 has a bypass control valve so you can restrict the water use more if you wish for maintenance cleans or increse the flow for first cleans.
Yeah like a vanmount lol. ;D


  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Thats the best post youve done NWH....how I laughed  ;D  ;D

NWH

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Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 05:23:05 pm »
What a stupid thing to say about a trolley lol leave it in the back of the van and run a hose from it, my god that made me LMAO lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2009, 05:24:10 pm »
Yea, why buy a trolley to leave it tucked up in the back of the van, what a dope  ;D

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2009, 05:25:21 pm »
right ok, funny guys. I have also looked at pure freedom, would there DIY Kits be better then?

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2009, 05:26:09 pm »
If you wanna go down the trolley route get a PureFreedom, Id recommend straight into van-mount though.



Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 05:29:09 pm »
Oh, Glyns deleted his post, calling us trolls.

Anyway, Glyn, once the trolley is empty, tucked up in the back of the van, what do you do when its empty and the day is only half over? And youve earnt 60 quid.

NWH

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Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2009, 05:29:16 pm »
Buy a tank and a hosereel and get a vanmount don`t mess about with something your gonna sell in 6 months mate trust me.

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2009, 05:29:49 pm »
I could probably put together a DIY Kit, but am a little unsure about securing these tanks, can you just drill down on your floor etc.

Again any info about what pole would fit in my kangoo and fill times. I live in a flat and would prob be using a stand pipe, so fill times are important.

Glyn H

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2009, 05:30:58 pm »
Yes that would be much better option >:( ;D
And you should also try knocking on Matt and NWH customers doors, telling them you will do a better job.
I am sure they would take it as well as I am - Not

NWH

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Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2009, 05:31:31 pm »
Oh, Glyns deleted his post, calling us trolls.

Anyway, Glyn, once the trolley is empty, tucked up in the back of the van, what do you do when its empty and the day is only half over? And youve earnt 60 quid.
Trolleys make suppliers money not window cleaners,you will get back problems galore liftig that about all day.They should call them WFhernia trolley systems. ;D

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2009, 05:32:58 pm »
Glyn, you dont take it well, honest.

NWH

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Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2009, 05:33:38 pm »
Trolleys my A*** lol,come on now Glyn you know we are spot on with our comments but i have to admit it`s a good way of targeting WC`s with a small budget lol. ;D ;D ;D :-*

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2009, 05:34:41 pm »
I wouldn't completly knock the idea, as I work mostly in a town center and parking can be a pain, but I definately would invest maybe 1k to give WFP a go, as I would like to even just use it on high jobs.

Re: Omnitrolley 125 DI
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2009, 05:37:23 pm »
If you need it for access in areas like high streets you dont want that dinosaur like monstrosity that omniwhatsit sell, pushing that down the high street you'll need an HGV licence  ;D  ;D