[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

good tactic to get people to buy insider info from an ex tax investigator.....SCARE THEM HALF TO DEATH

[rhys11]

i will await richys response to that one

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I've seen some classic postings on here which involve digging holes but this one goes straight to the deep mining section.

lol

[dave0123]

Problem is,

If he as done commerical work as he says he has! then thats all the proof they need  they will just estimate how long he has doing it from invoices. Or of course watching him  .

Also if he is cleaning commerical then i guess he might have a business bank account so its going to be very easy to find when he first opened that account or infact cheques going into a personal account will be checked back for years! thats the first account they will look in..

[Helen]

its a great thread this one most are on his side or have empathy[understand helen]
because we have been there all started beat up cars not knowing the way ahead'
so i have tried to give good advice

oooooooo'er!!!!
Empathy: " being able to put oneself into anothers shoes" "to feel compassion about anothers situation" this i did until I read some back posts as others had...... until after all the "bad" luck experienced was followed up with "going on holiday". Not the best decision to make when apparently had a lot of time off already and need to build the business up.Wrote my post and then thought, no not worth it so deleted it. We've all experienced bad times, we've all had bad luck from time to time.....get over it and move on........that is if that bit was true aswell :

[richywilts]

I have just been reading some of richys prevoius posts.

After reading a few I would not recommend that he comes clean to the taxman, unlike what he has said on this post about him just doing a few jobs here and there, his previous posts say a different story, on one he even left hundreds of ££££ worth of cheques in his jeans which went thought the wash.

He is also a member of the FWC, I thought you had to be legal to join this trade body, maybe they have dropped their conditions on being a member.

He also states that he has many commercial clients, all of whom will have had reciepts from him, with all his details on them.

If everything that he has written on his website and this forum is true, then he has not just been doing the odd job now and then, instead he has been running a very busy and profitable business.

No I would not recommend he comes clean with the taxman, because if he does, they will check on the past year and then he will be able to quote for the inside cleaning of "strangeways".


i will await richys response to that one

well heres my response.................i dont have any commercial clients and yes i am a member of the federation as i have took out public liability and joined memberships as i was preparing to go legit etc etc then i went thru the bad times, yes i did have a lot of cheques that wer put thru the wash these were accumulated over a period of time n hadnt been banked. as for everyone wondering where my money has came from does no one consider i may have parents who are finacially secure in there own lives to lend me money or that i may have savings of my own, whiplash claims etc that iv been able to save up and start a business.

some of you on here are trying to make a fool out of me, iv made an honest mistake not realising how serious of a matter i have gotten myself into not realising the taxman may not be so caring iv had a roughtime im not askin for pity i was asking professional advice from fellow window cleaners where to go to go fully legit as i now feel ready to put full effort into as im happy and settled in my life

as for my website im goin to make it sound as professional as i can aren't im not goin to advertise the fact im not quite fully legit yet i do domestics now n then in between gettin burgled and having van stolen etc.i can have a website designed how i want no rule in that i cant put watever content in i want iv just had it done now while i had the funds.and as for the holiday who said id paid for it and what business is it of others.

[ftp]

Ritchy, why not lock this thread and let it sink away? I think most on here have got the wrong end of the stick (me included at the beginning). Just pull your finger out and phone the taxman and get your ni standing order set up too. Your earnings look to be so low that i doubt you have much to worry about.

[gerard mcmanus]

i was asking professional advice from fellow window cleaners where to go to go fully legit as i now feel ready to put full effort into as im happy and settled in my life

richy I do think you have had a rough start and empathise with that, but reading you responses I think you are a victim of your own naïveté’s, I am surprised at how professional your website looks, as it is black in white to your posts.

You don’t go legit when you are happy and settled in your live, you do it because it’s the law, the law that you should make some contribution back into society. You can’t decide, oh I have had a rough time, its not suitable at the moment for me.

This I think is where you are getting allot of negative post my friend, you have a flippant attitude to business, and it doesn't sound any better when you say your parents bailed you out and bought you the nice van etc. and by the sounds of it, sent you away on a nice holiday.

If you really have struggled, you would have a sense of personal achievement, which I don’t hear in the tone of your responses.

As for the cheques I hate to say it, but you haven’t done a very good job of being illegitimate, if you have left a paper trail. Again this shows what I can only politely describe as naive.

I wish you all the best, and hope you get it all sorted, and do very well in business, and are in a position some time in the future to pay back your kind parents who helped you along.

[ronnie paton]

RICHY this id not a dig, but business is a struggle for most, most of us have to do it from scratch with no financial help.

you have obviuosly been running a business for some time you have potrayed your self has a proffesional company in your website and post, ive even sent you risk ass for commercial quotes.

i believe you need to go ligit now but if you go ligit and say have 100 customers from no were it may become obvious to the tax man??

I also in the 3 and a half years iv been running my business, iv split from my misses been homeless had a child and had to fight for contact ect ect ect the list is has long mhas my arm.

my point being there not good enough reasons and you have been earning money without paying tax gfiving you an advantage on your quoting to fellow window cleaners this is why people are annoyed with the situation.

[Moderator David@stives]

We all have sob stories to tell, you are no different to anyone else in that regard, life still goes on and so do taxes.
The taxman will give you no sympathy.

I will give you one last bit of advice then say no more.

Collect all your data from the last 12 months, if you havent recorded it , you can estimate it, get along to an accountant and explain to him.

This will give you a clear start and a clear head, believe me i have seen people end up a nervous wreck with the taxman.

End result.
 
Small slap on the wrist, maybe £100 late notification fine, accountant bill, but well worth it, and if you have earned very little, then there should be no tax to pay.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

thanks for clearing that up richy, you do seem on the face of it to have a good business which has a professional look on the website etc ( i guess anyone can have a website made up ) and by being a member of the fed etc ( which again anyone can pay their sky high fees every year if they can afford it/want it) and have a nice Ionics setup in your van ( again blah)...but as you have rightly said your intention was there to start the business off on a steady footing and make something of yourself by being your own boss and trying to get out of the shadow of the bank of mum and dad ....then life got in the way, correct?......that kind of thing can happen to any one of us, so dont listen to the " i am better than you brigade" they may have their own issues to deal with ( although they wont tell you )

there is light at the end of the tunnel ( a couple of the guys on here are working to switch that light off, here take this torch mate), a sense of humour about yourself will work, take the slagging here in good spirit and try and get out of the situation one step at a time ( hey, maybe i should have been a shrink)

step 1...tax office...monday morn.

[matt]

its a great thread this one most are on his side or have empathy[understand helen]
because we have been there all started beat up cars not knowing the way ahead'
so i have tried to give good advice

oooooooo'er!!!!
Empathy: " being able to put oneself into anothers shoes" "to feel compassion about anothers situation" this i did until I read some back posts as others had...... until after all the "bad" luck experienced was followed up with "going on holiday". Not the best decision to make when apparently had a lot of time off already and need to build the business up.Wrote my post and then thought, no not worth it so deleted it. We've all experienced bad times, we've all had bad luck from time to time.....get over it and move on........that is if that bit was true aswell :

so some1 who has had a bad run of luck doesnt deserve a holiday  : : the return from his hoilday might be point he is determined his luck will change

[williamx]

We all have bad runs of luck at times, its called LIFE, get over it.

Richy seems to think that he has only made a mistake by not informing the inland revenue he is running a business and he was unaware that he was breaking the law, but if you read what he has posted on this forum in the past, he knows what the law requires, he even slags off other window cleaners who are not legit, who under price other window cleaners, in fact he brags on the high prices he charges.

He said that he has no commercial clients, if thats the case why did he ask for a copy of an invoice that he could give to one of his customers.

He kepts going on about his past troubles as if its ok for him to defraud the public and us honest tax payers, yet he calls the thiefs who nicked his van as scum.

He slates anyone who is un-professinal in the trade yet he wanted a dodgy reference so he could rent his property.

He even brags about charging £90 to clean a conservatory and even getting a £30 tip which is taxable if he was to pay his taxes.

No I think that Richy knows what he is doing, he thinks that he has been clever, but he has left such a paper and web trail behind him that a blind tax inspector will trip over in time.

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

What ever the replies on here mate.....someone WILL report you given half a chance.

 Just hope there are no other cleaners on here who live near you.

bob

[Mike 108]

Hey Richy.

You’ve had a good ‘slagging off’ by those who think that you deserve it – but now is the time for action.

Go and see an accountant on Monday and let him sort it out. He’ll have sorted this kind of thing out dozens of times. There will have been countless numbers of people got into this type of mess over the years.

He’ll know exactly how to sort it out in the best way possible, with the least financial damage for you.

And then, forget about it. Take whatever punishment is dished your way (it might be 'nothing') and MOVE ON.

Mike

[matt]

Ive given my advice to Richy

BUT and this isnt aimed at him ( its a issue i have with people who tell us what we should wear and how we should act, who on here look down at others )

isnt it funny how people get sucked into the Image thing, the signwritten van, the web site, the uniform

if you have all the above you must be a success, afterall you have all the box's ticked, oh hang on, you dont have the work, Hmmmmmmm

now in richys case, it wasnt that simple

now on the flip side, the guy in the battered old escort van who arrives wearing jeans and a T-shirt, now he must be a failure, i bet he is not paying tax's etc etc, afterall he doenst fit in with the Professional image

a few on here really do suffer from "ideas of grandeur " and are far too quick to judge



 

[Mike 108]

Yep!  "You can't judge a book by the cover"

[richywilts]

ya all doin me head in iv got nothin too hide iv made a mistake iv had good intentions of going legit just january and feb my accountant wat i have used in past had been busy he was goin to talk me thru everything, i.e with me beginning in august etc and why im only just declaring it now march has slipped by and yeah it should have been done im not disputing that.

i asked for some honest advice ya all seem to have got me wrong think what you want to think, i picked up a small number of customers when i started out and not to let them down or lose them i did keep on cleaning them not for the money but to just keep them on books. iv not been out to con people iv always pretty much worked and paid taxes etc before.

yes i have asked for invoices and risk assesments etc they may have been for quotes that i never won and the invoice was for a flat a one off that the guy wanted tp put thru his property letting business.

as for the website signwritten van etc iv just read alot of posts on here etc i tried to follow suit because thats how i percieve a successful business i wantd to get my foundations right and look professional etc as there is no 1 using waterfed pole in my area i wanted to stand out.

maybe its time to look for a new career dont wantto end up like sum of you whter than white brigade

[Mike 108]

Richy.

Good post (that last one).

Now chill out and leave it to the accountant.

Go and do something enjoyable to take your mind off it.

Mike

[matt]

richy

you have done well o escape the lynch mob, did the rope break  ?? ?

 

[richywilts]

fair enough and thats why im asking to get it sorted now!!!